[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

On 10/30/16 11:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> On 10/29/2016 09:22 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> > On 10/29/16 6:40 PM, gordon cooper wrote:
> > > On 30/10/16 13:22, Ken Springer wrote:
> > > > Trying to learn a bit about Linux, as well as solve a printing issue
> > > > with LO in Linux Mint 17.3.  The printer is a Samsung CLP-315 color
> > > > laser.
> > > >
> > > > When printing a spreadsheet, and selecting landscape, LO prints
> > > > landscape, but to paper that is still portrait.  Sort of like this...
> > > >
> > > > ____________
> > > > |                 |
> > > > |                 |
> > > > ..................................
> > > > ..................................
> > > > ..................................
> > > > |___________|
> > > >
> > > > The dots represent the data that is trying to be printed.
> > > >
> > > > If I set the paper to portrait, this is the result.  All the data is
> > > > printed.
> > > >
> > > > ____________
> > > > |                 |
> > > > |                 |
> > > > ...................
> > > > ...................
> > > > ...................
> > > > |___________|
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My suspicion is the printer driver, but I would like to install the
> > > > current Linux stable version.  Mint installs 5.0.3.2, which is the
> > > > current version in the repository, from what I can see.
> > > >
> > > > I know it's somewhat apples to oranges, but the same spreadsheet works
> > > > fine on my Mac with the current version of LO.
> > > >
> > > > Once I've downloaded the current version, where to I go from there?
> > > Hi Ken,
> >
> > Hi, Gordon,
> >
> > >               There  any many versions of Linux, just look at
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
> > > to see.
> >
> > Oh, yea, I know. I go peek at distrtowatch.com now and again.  And
> > I've played with a number of LiveCD's to get a quick look at the ones
> > that looked interesting to me.
> >
> > > If you are wishing to stay with Mint, then take a look at their
> > > home page. There plenty are of good options and
> > > you will find that people have their preferences and tend to stay with
> > > them.
> >
> > I joined their forums 4-5 months ago.  And I got some suggestions
> > about using PPA's other than Linux Mint.  Just haven't had the time to
> > get to that.  But that doesn't mean the latest stable version is in
> > any of those PPA's.
> >
> > FYI, this printing problem has cropped up a couple weeks ago.  I asked
> > in the forums a couple months ago.
> >
> > Right now I'm using Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, looking for some
> > alternative to Windows and Macs that look simpler to tackle for
> > seniors and other "computer illiterate" folks.  Something they may
> > find easier to learn.  Secondarily, some of these individuals may have
> > unsupported versions of operating systems, but can't afford to buy a
> > new system. Or, they may not have one and can't afford one, but older
> > hardware can be salvaged and the system given to them.
>
> On old XP systems, I tend to replace Windows with Ubuntu with Mint as
> the desktop.  It was the closest to what I saw with Ubuntu's desktop for
> 9.x.x thru 10.10.x
>
> It works well for XP users, in my test with friends.

Is it Ubuntu that works well for your friends, or the Mint desktop?  My 
reason for using Mint is the Cinnamon environment seemed to provide the 
simplest user interface for new to Linux or new to computers users to 
understand.

> > > I use MX-Linux, which is based on
> > > Debian, like MInt,  and is a mid sized but very stable operating system.
> > > MX has LO built in.
> I use to use Linux Mint, but had too many issues with networked Canon
> inkjet printers.
>
> So I installed Ubuntu again, since I could find the Mint desktop for
> it.  Now Ubuntu has a distro with Mint as a default instead of adding it
> after Unity desktop opens up.
>
> Also, when I was using Linux Mint, I could not easily upgrade to the
> newest version.
>
> Ubuntu tries to keep its repository up-to-date with the latest stable
> version of LO.  I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with Mint.  I am using LO
> 5.2.1.2 on this laptop, but plan on upgrading it soon. Since I have been
> using Ubuntu since the 9.x.x days on my main desktop.  I have tried a
> few others on other laptops/desktops.  I chose Ubuntu since it was the
> only Live CD that worked on my old HP desktop's sound card right from
> that CD.  Right now this laptop, and my spare, run both Ubuntu 16.04 and
> Windows 10,
>
>
>
>
> > Mint also has LO built in.
> >
> > > Where you setting your portrait/landscape option, in LO?
> >
> > Been switching between them in Calc, in this case.  When I stumbled on
> > this problem today, I also tried Writer, same problem.
> >
> > But, in the printer's properties, I can't switch from landscape to
> > portrait.  The option is greyed out.
> >
> > I've even tried reversing the page dimensions, to no avail.
>
> Are you sure it is a MX670?
> If so, what country did you get it from.
> I do not see it listed in the Canon support for the USA.

My bad, Tim, I typed the model from memory.  Sorry.

It's an MX 870 from the US.

> > Calc printed fine to a Canon MX-670 (I think that's the right printer)
> > when the printer was first installed.  Then it broke for some unknown
> > reason.  It would print about 1.25" of data, and then be paused.
> > Resume the printing, and another 1.25" would print. Removing the
> > printer and reinstalling (although I might not have done it correctly)
> > failed to fix the issue.
> I have bought so far 6220, 922, 5420, and a new one coming - 5320 - to
> help deal with the issues that my 6220 is having.  It was my default
> photo printer.  I had to find a two-way-paper-feeding printer, since
> that is what I needed from the 6220.  I have also a HP laser and a HP
> 13x19 inch paper printer.  The Canon 922 print head needs replacing for
> it to be working again, so I will replace the printer or repair it
> depending on the costs.
>
> Where did you get the Canon printer driver?
> I tended to go either to the UK or Canada for the drivers.

I didn't go anywhere.  <G>  Mint just plain "saw" it and worked, until 
there was the printing problem with it.  That problem is it just plain 
pauses itself, and indicates that in the print queue.

> Sometimes I needed to remove the printer from the printer list and then
> reinstall the drivers and then the printer.  Sometimes that fixes
> problems that are not fixed with easier methods, like removing the LO
> user config files and the reopen LO to recreate it.

We don't want to confuse ourselves here, we are starting to talk about 2 
different printers in 2 different locations.  The Samsung laser is mine 
at home, the Canon is at a social agency and owned by them.

> There is a ppa source [I do to remember where it came from] for most of
> the newer printers that are no longer showing Linux drivers in the Canon
> support sites.
>
> > I swapped the computer out (laptops both, same Linux version), and the
> > other system also printed fine.  My conclusion was something went
> > bonkers in the first computer.  I don't have the time currently to
> > learn enough about Linux Mint to find the true cause, but installing
> > is so easy, I'm just reinstalling Mint and I'm sure it will work fine
> > once again.
> >
> > OH!  And the RAM passed Memtest86, so that isn't the problem.  And the
> > user of the computer isn't the most literate either. :-(  I've had to
> > fix issues with the spreadsheet that were all data entry errors.
> >
> > So finding out why it doesn't print to my laser is more
> > curiosity/learning than anything else.


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