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More than one picture in a row, or even on the same page does seem to be 
common.


From the chapter on frames in my book:


Throughout LibreOffice, frames are usually less trouble if you follow 
these best practices:
- Add objects when the formatting and writing is done. The objects are 
less likely to move around.

- If possible, format the frame style, not individual frames. 

- Adjust objects immediately after you add them, not later. If 
necessary, experiment with the exact settings first, making notes of all 
the settings. Then delete the experiment and add the frame again, 
applying the settings as the frame is added.

- Never copy and paste frames or objects. Delete a frame and start from 
scratch if you want to move an object.

- Never drag an object to resize or reposition it. Use the right-click 
menu.

- Never use spaces or empty lines to position objects. Instead, always 
use styles.

- Avoid putting two or more images one after the other, unseparated by 
text. The workaround suggested in this chapter is more reliable for 
placing two or more images together. 

These precautions seem to work more reliably in Writer than in Calc, 
Draw, or Impress.


On September 7, 2016 08:57:54 PM Bo Siltberg wrote:

Thanks for that information. The article do show that it actually is a
known problem, a very old problem. I'm glad to see that.

I have managed to reproduce a strange error regarding pictures using
the LO Users Guide. There seem to be a case with a (large) picture
anchored as character followed by a smaller picture anchored to
paragraph. The second picture is also wrapped with text to its left,
but I have not tested if that is a condition for this error to occur.
The picture 1
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzKxVP7gn2uTYlpLa1UxUDRWWjA>shows
this setup. I just took two pictures in the document and arranged them
as described above. Note that frame1 (first picture) comes before
frame2 (2nd pic) in the image list to the left.

Now, when adding or deleting text before the first picture, it will
sometimes disappear as seen in picture 2
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzKxVP7gn2uTclpnU3VNV182N0E> As you
can see, the disappeared picture created lots of free space, the
document became smaller so I could image this would confuse the page
formatting function. Note that the order between frame1 and 2 has
changed. The first picture has been moved after the second. So where
did it go? By clicking on frame1 I found the picture at the bottom of
the page, invisible, spanning two pages, see picture 3
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzKxVP7gn2uTS2E0Zm9PZ3V2ZmM> Odd
indeed.

I was able to delete all other text in this document and still
reproduce the error. That's good. (The screen shots were taken before
that.) I have uploaded this mini version of the LO Users Guide
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzKxVP7gn2uTNzVvTjZCOU9jN0U> where
this error can be reproduced, at least by me. I would appreciate if
someone else could confirm the behaviour that I see. Just place the
cursor above the large picture, hit enter / backspace back and forth,
which sometimes will make the large picture disappear. This is LO
5.1.5.2 but I do see the problem in 5.2 as well.

A work around is to place the small picture and its text to the left in
a two-column table, and keep the large picture anchored as character -
that appears to work fine. The picture in the table is also anchored
as character if that makes difference. I guess that it may take time
to find and resolve this error in LO so I will need to apply this work
around. But I have more than 1000 pictures in my doc so I need to
gather some strength first before taking that step...

btw, this was one (1) scenario - I can only hope it is the only
scenario that makes LO mess up the page formatting.

2016-09-06 20:53 GMT+02:00 Bruce Byfield <bbyfield@axion.net>:

My questions were an effort to determine whether how you were using
styles was the problem. Unfortunately, from your answers, I don't 
think so.

However, there are some longstanding quirks in how frames and images
work that usually kick in when there are lots of images.

I don't know any easy way to correct your problem, but in future you
might try placing images in a table, as described in this article:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat->> 
Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/The-mysteries-of-positioning-pictures-in-LibreOf
fice- OpenOffice

This solution limits options for text wrapping, but does seem to make
pictures stay where you place them.

Hope this helps.

On September 6, 2016 05:05:12 AM Bo Siltberg wrote:

Sorry, yes, it points to itself.

2016-09-05 23:25 GMT+02:00 Bruce Byfield <bbyfield@axion.net>:

How do you actually apply page styles? Your description of what is
happening sounds as though you have applied page styles simply by
clicking on the page, but, from your last reply, that isn't what
you
have done.

Does your Default style have itself as the next style?

On September 5, 2016 08:57:35 PM Bo Siltberg wrote:

I have only one page style, the *Default style*, where I have
adjusted
the margins a bit, no more.
I guess I should have created my own page style.
It could very well be that I have misused the styles concept for
paragraphs and characters too.

2016-09-05 20:45 GMT+02:00 Bruce Byfield <bbyfield@axion.net>:

On 04-09-16 20:26, Bo Siltberg wrote:

I have a large document with lots of pictures currently
using
LO
5.1.5.2.
After doing some editing, the page formatting function
kicks
in
automatically but does a bad job, inserting page breaks
randomly
and
lots
of empty pages in sequence.


How are you inserting page styles? Are you using the Next Style
field
on the Organizer page for page styles?

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