Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: about libreoffice 5.2

Hi :)
That would be a brilliant way to have it in the longer-term.  I've not
managed to get Virtualbox to use a proper hard-drive rather than it's own
internal image of a drive but probably because i only had a very brief stab
at it.

There are many other ways, such as just using LibreOffice within Linux Mint
(or whichever version ( = distro ) of Linux and forget about the whole
Windows side (except for using the files that will still be on that side).

A "dual boot" system would keep Windows available and almost unchanged but
would give a menu at "boot up" to allow Nasrin to choose to use Mint (or
whichever) and become familiar with it at her own pace.


My main reason for using Virtualbox inside of Windows XP was meant to be a
temporary thing.  It would just to be to experiment with setting up
accessibility tools within the OS that is within the Virtual Machine.  All
neatly still in a working and familiar system that CAN still talk to you
and make some sort of sense.


Moving on to a dual-boot system, or some-such would be a next step into
Linux-land and away from Xp.  Moving from Xp to Linux can be a gentle
"migration" that keeps the option of retreating back into Xp available at
all times.

Microsoft prefers that people leap fearlessly into the void with absolutely
no idea whether their new system will work or not.  That has kept many
people firmly chained to Xp.

I prefer the gentler approach that Linux offers :))  It's one of the many
reasons i am happy i made the journey.  I still do use Windows but
increasingly rarely.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 29 June 2016 at 15:29, M Henri Day <mhenriday@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2016-06-29 16:05 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi :)
> > Are you able to install a Virtual Machine, such as Virtualbox;
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/
> >
> > and then try out Linux Mint or some other versions of Linux on the virtual
> > machine?  If you can find a version of linux that you like and that works
> > on your machine then you might not have to worry about upgrading to a
> > newer
> > machine.
> >
> > There are tons of noob-friendly "distros" such as Ubuntu, Mageia and many
> > others listed at;
> > http://distrowatch.com/
> > The list is in the 3rd column under the header and is the 2nd box down in
> > that column.
> >
> > I am not sure which is "the best" for Accessibility issues such as
> > screen-readers but i suspect that many people on this mailing list might
> > be
> > quite happy to give pointers or suggestions about things worth trying.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> > On 25 June 2016 at 12:52, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Nasrin,
> > >
> > >
> > > nasrin khaksar wrote
> > > > hi stuart.
> > > > ...
> > > > but the third bug which you sent it for me, shows libreoffice 5.2 does
> > > > not run on windows xp.
> > > > does it mean that all features are completely unsupported and the
> > > > document foundation said goodbye to windows xp for always?
> > > > could you please send me its read me file?
> > >
> > > Not at all.  But things are not looking good for Windows XP  sp3
> > continuing
> > > as a supported OS for the project.
> > >
> > > The Engineering Steering Committee (ESC) "the developers" are aware, but
> > > decision to officially end support for Windows XP with the 5.1
> > > release--that
> > > is to *not* seek work arounds that would  be needed to continue support
> > for
> > > Windows XP at 5.2--has not been made.
> > >
> > > The problem on Windows XP sp3 (32-bit, as 64-bit XP sp2 is not
> > supported)
> > > has been that the cURL (libcurl.dll) required for LibreOffice to
> > > communicate
> > > with the Update services (since 5.0) and to the Error Reporting services
> > > (at 5.2) is not supported by Windows XP sp3.
> > >
> > > Bug tdf#100295 is already assigned a "Highest" priority and applies from
> > > 5.2.0beta2 forward. The 5.1 branch is impacted but not broken--but it
> > could
> > > be the end of the line for Windows XP sp3 users.
> > >
> > > There are several ways this could be worked around--up to the ESC, but
> > it
> > > is
> > > unlikely that cURL would be removed, or Error Reporting not implemented
> > at
> > > 5.2.   So unfortunately at this moment in the development cycle
> > LibreOffice
> > > will not launch on Windows XP Sp3.
> > >
> > > I just checked the draft "Release notes" for 5.2 (link below), and thus
> > far
> > > no mention of  cURL support on XP SP3, nor a description of the new
> > Error
> > > Reporting mechanism. But that is common as we are some time away from
> > the
> > > final release.
> > >
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > > =-ref-=
> > > Draft release notes 5.2
> > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.2
> >
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> ​Tom, given the fact that Windows XP hasn't been supported (for ordinary
> users)​
> ​ since 14 April 2014, and thus security updates are no longer being
> released, perhaps Nasrin's best bet would be to clone her Windows XP
> installation and replace it on her HDD with, e g, Linux Mint 17.3 (which
> generally speaking, is very intuitive and easy to use for those accustomed
> to Windows). Or she might want to wait a couple of weeks until the standard
> version of Linux Mint 18 has been released (I personally recommend the
> Cinnamon desktop). In any event, when that is done, she should have no
> problem installing VirtualBox on that machine, and then installing her XP
> clone on VirtualBox. LibreOffice can then be installed directly on Linux
> Mint....
>
> Henri

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