Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

On 04/29/2016 07:12 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> 2016-04-29 19:16 GMT+02:00 Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster <
> webmaster@krackedpress.com>:
>
> > On 04/29/2016 05:19 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> >
> > > Am 29.04.2016 um 03:30 schrieb James Knott:
> > >
> > > > On 04/28/2016 06:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I chose LibreOffice over all of the forks out there.
> > > > Ummm...  LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your initial question was if there is more than a viewer for Android and
> > > now you come up with issues of taste and branding.
> > >
> > > It is the decision of those who actually do the work.
> > > They may find the Apache license more attractive.
> > > They may be familiar with the old code base but not with the forks.
> > > The "stability" (lack of development) could be attractive too.
> > I started using OpenOffice.org before it had the ability to save .doc
> > files.  I tried Oxygen Office and a few others over the years. When
> > LibreOffice came out in its first version, I switched and never looked
> > back.  When Apache's version came out I did not switch.
> >
> > Yes, my original question was about needing a package that has the editing
> > ability for ODF, but I have the LibreOffice viewer and wanted to use an
> > Android version of LibreOffice that does the editing.  For whatever
> > reasons, I come to prefer LibreOffice's "brand", from the reasons for
> > creating this fork to the "community" developed around this fork.
> >
> > I did download the suggested Android app and will look into using it. If
> > you do not have an external keyboard, you cannot use "landscape
> > orientation" and see what you are typing at the same time - or at least for
> > my tablet's display resolution.
> >
> > Note - in my honest opinion[s]:
> > Someday, hopefully soon, our volunteer developers will produce an Android
> > app that will create and edit ODF and MSO file formats. Also, one day those
> > users of iOS devices will have a LO version to use as well. For me, I like
> > the idea that I could use the same "brand" of an office suite for every
> > device that I would use.  Right now I use Linux and Windows 10 for
> > desktops/laptops, and Android for a tablet and a phone.  Right now, MSO is
> > available for my laptops/desktops and my Android tablets.  There are
> > Windows phones and Windows tablets, and MS wants to easily run their MSO on
> > all platforms.  It seems that they are working on an easier way to run MS
> > packages on Linux than using Wine.  I keep seeing references to this.  SO,
> > I really like to see LibreOffice on all the common platforms - Linux,
> > Windows, Mac OSX, and one day Android and iOS.
> >
> > If the Linux "hating" Microsoft is working with Linux developers to make
> > it easier to use MS packages on Linux, then maybe they realize that there
> > are a lot of users out there who prefer Linux - and maybe LibreOffice -
> > over MS's OS and packages.  If MS is actively looking towards the Linux
> > user base to make MSO, and other Windows packages, usable on Linux so MS
> > could try to dominate the one market they have not been able to do so.
> >
> > Right now, LibreOffice is the dominate [default] office package for most
> > Linux distros.  I really hope it could be dominate in the Android market as
> > well - when LO has has its own editor ready.
>
> I'm not sure that the LibreOffice people are looking for world domination.
> They do a great job with this suite (even though I prefer Apache
> OpenOffice, since LibreOffice sometimes destroys my spreadsheets and only
> Apache OpenOffice seems to be able to repair them again…), but they don't
> try to force you to use it. I have even seen people on this list
> recommending unhappy users something else, sometimes even MS Office… So it
> seems to be more like ”look what we did, feel welcome do use it if you want
> to, and if it doesn't feel right for you, maybe you could try this or that
> instead”, rather than ”we must double the user base until next year” or
> whatever.
>
> And no, there is no LibreOffice for Android available yet. The best app yet
> seems to be that AndrOpen Office app, but who knows what the future holds…
> AndrOpen Office seems to be based on Apache OpenOffice, but as far as I
> know, no Apache people are involved in that project, so it's kind of a
> fork, just like LibreOffice.

No, I do not think LO is going for "world domination", but I really 
think having every "major" platform should have a good/great free and 
open source option for their office suite needs.  Since I support 
LibreOffice, it would be nice to have LibreOffice on all of those 
platforms as one of those free and open source options.  Since 
LibreOffice does not - yet - have an editor for Android, AndrOffice will 
do for now.  MSO packages are now free for Android [at least for the 
basic versions].  I really do not want to see that MS becomes the 
dominate Android office package, like it is for Windows.  Also, the way 
the articles imply, I do not want to see MSO come to Linux and try to 
take over the dominance of the Linux office suite marketplace.

The last time I bought MSO, it was 2003 version for the Education 
market.  I gave up MSO when OpenOffice.org read/write the MSO 97-2003 
file formats.  Also, once I made Ubuntu [9.10 or 10.04] as my default 
OS, I had a real excuse to do most of my work using Ubuntu Linux instead 
on my Windows XP desktops/laptop.  Well, another reason was the lack of 
viruses and malware on the Linux OS. I first heard about OpenOffice.org 
in an author's notes at the end of one of his books, where he use Linux 
and OpenOffice.org to write that book.  Been using it, or its various 
forks, since then. Now that I use desktops [sometimes], laptops 
[mostly], and tablets [more and more], I want to have the same office 
package on all my systems, Windows 10, Ubuntu Linux, and Android.  Then 
I would not have issues with non-compatibility between the documents 
made on one device like my Android 4.4.x tablet, and the same file on my 
Ubuntu 16.04 laptop.  For now I have to use a different "brand" of open 
source office package till LibreOffice comes to Android as an editor. 
Actually I have LibreOffice reader and the AndrOffice Android apps 
installed on the tablet.  That is a good start.




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