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Hi :)
That is a good idea and might work somewhere that might take any notice of
a risk assessment or a disaster recovery plan.

My place prefers to take risks because it's not worth the effort of not
opening a known dodgy email or any other preventative actions, or
inactions.

LibreOffice is already on all machines, alongside MS Office, and it's been
seen that the documents it produces are much higher quality for much less
work.  However, people say they "have got to use MS Office" because;
1.  that's what they are familiar with, (and then keep asking me how to do
simple things)
2  (and onwards), lots of other hypocritical or nonsensical FUD

I have to reinstall Xp on half the machines that recently failed (although
the Ubuntu side kept on working fine).  I'm not allowed to run updates,
because (the managers say) it's stuff like that which causes systems to
break down and they would be fine otherwise.

For the first time ever i have not been told to remove the reliable and
working system in order to replace it with the one that just failed = i can
keep Ubuntu on the machines but i'm not allowed to fix the Mbr!
Regards from
Tom :)





On 2 June 2015 at 22:43, Rob Pearson <rob@pearson.net.nz> wrote:

Tom,  (you probably know this but for the benefit of others... ) in many
cases it is not that a business wants to stick with Microsoft systems with
their forever changing quirky proprietary file formats and obscure changing
licensing.   I recommend that you or others do as follows:

Write a proposal that identifies and details these long-standing problems
that everyone is already aware of,  and propose the the solution that you
will co-ordinate it.   Also state that irrespective of a decision being
made on this, that LibreOffice can be installed with immediate effect as
the default for ODF files.

Example of a proposal:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Deployment_and_Migration#Business_case_proposal_for_upgrading_to_LibreOffice
Example of installing LibreOffice in tandem with another office suite:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Deployment_and_Migration#Examples

Before you do this, you could provide an IT Disaster Recovery plan, that
mentions the risks you already face, including your risks and issues of
being locked in to a single vendor.

Rob


On 03/06/15 4:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
My work-place is determined to use Microsoft even in cases where a
competing product is significantly better at the main task a program is
beign used for.  For example Outlook (not the 365 one) for calendars and
room bookings rather than something that can be read outside the office.
The only time they are interested is after a better system has been set-up
and they can see it running - ie a bit too late to charge them for the
work
of setting it up!

My managers and some colleagues still deny that they have problems due to
incompatibility (despite buying the same products that are being used by
other organisations) - and then make a big fuss about "having to Pdf it"
and about how Pdfs (from MSO) are almost invariably being blurry (unlike
ones done in LO)
Regards from
Tom :)




On 2 June 2015 at 15:18, message <letter@openmailbox.org> wrote:

 Readers,

UK government proceeds with strategic support of open standards. However,
at local and departmental level, proprietary format continue use due to
managerial inertia. It's up to taxpayers...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-formats-implementation-plan/open-formats-implementation-plan

https://diasp.eu/posts/3185007
https://diasp.eu/posts/3183106
https://diasp.eu/posts/3181869
https://diasp.eu/posts/3181361

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