Re: [libreoffice-users] government implementation of open standards

Mark, your friend might see it as a threat like ,  however all staffers 
I have worked with in IT departments don't think like that,  it's not 
like a Windows environment is being changed to GNU/Linux,   it's just an 
office suite that can complement an existing one if that's all you 
choose to do.   Although the opportunity to use other operating systems 
increases if you do use it.

Now that LibreOffice is so good, the only real roadblock is the saga of 
preparing the business case, see link below,  and also how to roll it 
out with minimal fuss, also see the other link below.   As LibreOffice 
can be installed and easily maintained with immediate effect as the 
default for ODF files without interfering, this is a minimum no 
brainer.  The problem used to be "I don't have time" but it is a simple 
task for an IT techy, with Group Policy maintenance as well etc.

On 03/06/15 11:25 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> There's one thing that you are not taking into account.  IT departments
> have an entrenched interest in continuing to use MS software.  Many of
> those in IT who make these decisions make their living from hand holding
> users of MS malware.  There is a serious case of conflict of interests.
>   It does not matter how well you document your case.  They don't want to
> be confused with the facts because their minds are already made up.
>
> I had a friend who ran a small computer shop.  I asked him why he didn't
> use Linux on the systems he built.  His reply was that he would starve
> if he did that because he depended on his customer's returning to him to
> fix the ever present problems with MS Windows and MS software such as
> data corruption, file system pollution with endless dll and temp files,
> viruses, file segmentation, accumulated registry errors, etc...
>
> On 06/02/15 17:43, Rob Pearson wrote:
> > Tom,  (you probably know this but for the benefit of others... ) in many
> > cases it is not that a business wants to stick with Microsoft systems
> > with their forever changing quirky proprietary file formats and obscure
> > changing licensing.   I recommend that you or others do as follows:
> >
> > Write a proposal that identifies and details these long-standing
> > problems that everyone is already aware of,  and propose the the
> > solution that you will co-ordinate it.   Also state that irrespective of
> > a decision being made on this, that LibreOffice can be installed with
> > immediate effect as the default for ODF files.
> >
> > Example of a proposal:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Deployment_and_Migration#Business_case_proposal_for_upgrading_to_LibreOffice
> >
> > Example of installing LibreOffice in tandem with another office suite:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Deployment_and_Migration#Examples
> >
> > Before you do this, you could provide an IT Disaster Recovery plan, that
> > mentions the risks you already face, including your risks and issues of
> > being locked in to a single vendor.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On 03/06/15 4:53 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > My work-place is determined to use Microsoft even in cases where a
> > > competing product is significantly better at the main task a program is
> > > beign used for.  For example Outlook (not the 365 one) for calendars and
> > > room bookings rather than something that can be read outside the office.
> > > The only time they are interested is after a better system has been
> > > set-up
> > > and they can see it running - ie a bit too late to charge them for the
> > > work
> > > of setting it up!
> > >
> > > My managers and some colleagues still deny that they have problems due to
> > > incompatibility (despite buying the same products that are being used by
> > > other organisations) - and then make a big fuss about "having to Pdf it"
> > > and about how Pdfs (from MSO) are almost invariably being blurry (unlike
> > > ones done in LO)
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2 June 2015 at 15:18, message <letter@openmailbox.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Readers,
> > > >
> > > > UK government proceeds with strategic support of open standards.
> > > > However,
> > > > at local and departmental level, proprietary format continue use due to
> > > > managerial inertia. It's up to taxpayers...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-formats-implementation-plan/open-formats-implementation-plan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://diasp.eu/posts/3185007
> > > > https://diasp.eu/posts/3183106
> > > > https://diasp.eu/posts/3181869
> > > > https://diasp.eu/posts/3181361
> > > >
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