Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: how to turn off auto-generated lists?

Hi :)
There are various different layers of hidden codes.  Ctrl A, Delete
only gets rid of a few of them.

Some can be seen by pressing the backwards sort of double-struck P in
the toolbar icons.  This "shows non-printing characters", such as tabs
and end-of-paragraphs, that don't get printed out.  These are the ones
that get deleted by Ctrl A, delete.

If you poke around with a hex-editor or get even further (well,
slightly further) down into the 1s and 0s (with a side-bar or
something to see the ascii characters) then you see all sorts of weird
characters, most of which are incomprehensible to almost anyone but
some are human-readable and show things such as names, systems,
occasionally even addresses and phone numbers from ancient times.  I
think some of the incomprehensible ones are the ones doing screwey
things.


Yeh, Windows tries to avoid letting people develop good habits and
tries to push them into bad ones.

One of my favs was Microsoft saying you should never accept cookies
and never turn your anti-virus off for anything.  Then their own
website asked you to accept cookies and to install anything from them
they would tell you to turn off your anti-virus.  However if you did
so and ran into troubles then 'experts' would blame the user for
obviously bad habits and ignoring security issues.

One wonders why people are so surprised that Windows so frequently
runs into problems and is so open to malware and attacks.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 12 February 2015 at 12:54, Gary Collins <gcatlast@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> A lot of people seem to open an old document and then use that to
> create new documents
>
> [sometimes that's the easiest way in windows]
>
>  but that way tons of hidden formatting codes and
> stuff seem to lurk and sometimes do some really odd things.
>
> [I'd have thought that selecting all with Ctrl-A and hitting del or
> backspace should remove everything? perhaps not?]
>
>
>  Copy&Pasting as unformatted text into a fresh new
> document got rid of all sorts of weird problems.
>
> [I'll try that, it may well work]
>
> Writer doesn't seem to generate lists in the way described, at least
> not for me.  Calc does, of course, but i usually have to select 3-4
> cells and then drag.  So i am not sure what is going on.
>
>
> [I've tried it here in the office with a new document, and it doesn't seem
> to do it here, either; so your explanation may well be right. I'm not sure
> if the version here and the version at home are the same, I'll check.
> The style in my home doc was default, and there was nothing I could find
> that indicated that it might be in the middle of a list. Perhaps there is a
> way of making formatting codes visible in a document? And deleting unwanted
> ones? If not, perhaps it might be a good idea if one were to be introduced?
> ]
>
> best,
> /Gary

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