Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: rtf files

Sorry, Tom, that is plain text, just like HTML is plain text. Yes, it
contains special codes, but it does not contain anything but plain ASCII
characters.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
> I'm really not getting plain text.  When i right-click and open in a
> text-editor i get this sort of thing;
>
> {\rtf1\ansi\deff3\adeflang1025
> {\fonttbl{\f0\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times New
> Roman;}{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset2 Symbol;}{\f2\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0
> Arial;}{\f3\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Serif{\*\falt Times New
> Roman};}{\f4\fswiss\fprq2\fcharset0 Liberation Sans{\*\falt
> Arial};}{\f5\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0 Droid Sans
> Fallback;}{\f6\fnil\fprq2\fcharset0 FreeSans;}{\f7\fswiss\fprq0\fcharset128
> FreeSans;}}
> {\colortbl;\red0\green0\blue0;\red128\green128\blue128;}
>
> {\stylesheet{\s0\snext0\nowidctlpar{\*\hyphen2\hyphlead2\hyphtrail2\hyphmax0}\cf0\kerning1\dbch\af5\langfe2052\dbch\af6\afs24\alang1081\loch\f3\fs24\lang2057
> Normal;}
>
> {\s15\sbasedon0\snext16\sb240\sa120\keepn\dbch\af5\dbch\af6\afs28\loch\f4\fs28
> Heading;}
> {\s16\sbasedon0\snext16\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140 Text Body;}
> {\s17\sbasedon16\snext17\sl288\slmult1\sb0\sa140\dbch\af7 List;}
> {\s18\sbasedon0\snext18\sb120\sa120\noline\i\dbch\af7\afs24\ai\fs24
> Caption;}
> {\s19\sbasedon0\snext19\noline\dbch\af7 Index;}
>
> }{\info{\creatim\yr2014\mo11\dy19\hr16\min29}{\revtim\yr0\mo0\dy0\hr0\min0}{\printim\yr0\mo0\dy0\hr0\min0}{\comment
> LibreOffice}{\vern67241730}}\deftab709
> \viewscale100
> {\*\pgdsctbl
>
> {\pgdsc0\pgdscuse451\pgwsxn11906\pghsxn16838\marglsxn1134\margrsxn1134\margtsxn1134\margbsxn1134\pgdscnxt0
> Default Style;}}
>
> \formshade\paperh16838\paperw11906\margl1134\margr1134\margt1134\margb1134\sectd\sbknone\sectunlocked1\pgndec\pgwsxn11906\pghsxn16838\marglsxn1134\margrsxn1134\margtsxn1134\margbsxn1134\ftnbj\ftnstart1\ftnrstcont\ftnnar\aenddoc\aftnrstcont\aftnstart1\aftnnrlc
> \pgndec\pard\plain
>
> \s0\nowidctlpar{\*\hyphen2\hyphlead2\hyphtrail2\hyphmax0}\cf0\kerning1\dbch\af5\langfe2052\dbch\af6\afs24\alang1081\loch\f3\fs24\lang2057{\rtlch
> \ltrch\loch
> asdfdf}
> \par }
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 19 November 2014 16:16, Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2014-11-19 16:58 GMT+01:00 Virgil Arrington <arringtonve@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > That's one of the things I've always liked about RTF. In a pinch, one
> > > could open an RTF file in Notepad and strip out all of the RTF coding
> and
> > > be left with a document's contents. I've never had to do it, but it's
> > nice
> > > that it can be done. With a binary file, you're left with smiley faces
> > and
> > > no visible content.
> >
> >
> > ​Now, add a picture to your rtf file and see how fun it is to have all
> > things in a "plaintext", notepad friendly​ file format...
> >
> > More recent format like odt (and docx for that matter) are *WAY* better.
> > (is there a way to emphasis this more?). They are in fact a collection of
> > files in a simple ZIP, but the core of it (the text and structure) is in
> a
> > straightforward XML file which is as "plaintext" as an RTF file. In fact,
> > it's easier to strip the extra tags out of an XML file, since tools to
> > manipulate/reformat XML are extremely common.
> >
> > With recent format, you get the possibility, should an issue arise, to
> > ​extract the plaintext content, and even the attached files (pictures and
> > other embedded OLE stuff) with common tools. This is even demonstrated on
> > this list, when sometime someone get a corrupted file, and it is possible
> > to recover it with stuff like notepad and windows' zip file explorer.
> >
> > There's no comparison between these format, heavily documented in case of
> > ODT, that put a clear separation between content and format, and an RTF
> > file that want to cram everything (content, format, and binary blobs for
> > image) in a single "plaintext" file.
> >
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