Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing "Brochure" with Writer -- margins

Can your printer print "borderless" letter or A4 paper sizes?
For my Canon and HP inkjet printers, there is a set of "borderless" 
sizes of the normal paper sizes.  This "tricks" the printer to not have 
any borders around the final printed page.  I use this mostly for 
printing full sheet photos, so there is not any printer defined 
margins/borders during the printing stage.

As for the "brochure" page formatting, I do not use the "printing 
option" but manually create the three columns per sheet side and choose 
the margins/borders then so it is easier for me to create what I need 
and see the results without waiting for the printing stage.


On 09/21/2014 08:26 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:17 19/09/2014 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> > I am just trying to make the routine of publishing music concert 
> > programs as easy for new office staff as possible (I am director for 
> > an early music group). One way to print the concert programs in 
> > booklet format is to have the office staff type up the concert 
> > program in Writer and at the point of printing, choose the "brochure 
> > layout" option in the Printer window tab "Page Layout". This method 
> > works perfectly and allows for any new person to the music office to 
> > just step in and print concert programs in very few steps that 
> > require practically no brochure layout knowledge -- extremely user 
> > friendly to use.
> >
> > My question is, when the printed brochure comes out, there is a lot 
> > of wasted space at the top and bottom of the brochure pages. Is there 
> > a way to make use of this space? ... For example, have the printed 
> > words start higher up the page and also down the page?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Is this something that could be suggested as a bug or put on a wishlist?
>
> No need.
>
> At 05:44 20/09/2014 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> > The "brochure" option prints a Writer doc automatically in booklet 
> > form and figures out the pagination automatically -- so, a user can 
> > easily print out "booklets" by doing practically no setup at all ... 
> > no styling needed.
>
> Actually, page format is *only* controlled by a page style, so you 
> always have a page style or styles in every document, even if you only 
> ever use the default Default page style. (Don't be frightened of styles!)
>
> > As far as I can tell, even if I change the body length ... for 
> > example set the 8.5X11 inch page to a top and bottom margin of "0.00 
> > inches" ... the brochure (booklet) will still be printed with the 
> > same top/bottom gaps of spaces at the top/bottom of the booklet.
>
> The problem - as already suggested by Mark Bourne - is that you are 
> not using the brochure facility in the best way. (I think this is an 
> example of where Microsoft Word does things differently; are you 
> perhaps guilty of Wordthink?) If you rely on Writer to scale your text 
> to the brochure size, you will need to choose font sizes and picture 
> sizes and so on which come right in the brochure when printed - 
> instead of using the actually sizes you want, as you would do normally.
>
> To create brochures most conveniently, set your original document page 
> size to the actual size of the page as printed - in your case 5.5 by 
> 8.5 inches in portrait orientation. Set the font sizes as you actually 
> want to see them in the brochure. As you create the text, you will see 
> the pagination as it will actually appear. When you print, using the 
> Brochure option, ensure that the printer settings are 8.5 by 11 inches 
> and landscape orientation. You will find this much easier and the 
> margin settings in your page style(s) should be reflected in what you 
> get.
>
> > It would be very useful, if there were a way to make use of the white 
> > space through the initial Writer document before going to the 
> > "Print->Brochure" option. This would allow ALL Writer users to print 
> > out brochure-booklets without any prepping of styles.
>
> Why not prepare the page style (half-size, portrait, margins, possibly 
> including page numbers, ... whatever) yourself and save this as a 
> template? This can include the printer settings, so that Letter, 
> landscape, and even Brochure will all be set without your users having 
> to think about them.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker


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