Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Multiple Forms In HTML

I actually worked with ODT files in that manner in my data mining business.  It was easier, for 
many reasons, to generate output for clients with OOo (this was before LO) and much of what clients 
were doing was printing data out, so I had a program in Java (platform independent and Java 
interfaced with OOo well) that would use OOo for the final mail merge and printing.  For reasons I 
won’t go into (and many of which I’ve probably forgotten years ago), it was easier to load the ODT 
files (wasn’t it something like sxw or something else back then?) in Java, unzip, edit the text in 
Java, then rezip and let OOo print it out.


Hal

On Sep 19, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
> Yeh, Joomla, Drupal and Wordpress are almost definitely not what you are looking for!  
>
> However i suspect that it might be easier and faster just to go with Wordpress anyway but only if 
> they give you a free hosting service temporarily "just to see what Wordpress can do".  Joomla 
> offers such a space but it's waaay to complicated to learn quickly and it's definitely overkill 
> for this - plus it uses the template structure you dislike!  
>
> Errr, given your skill-set it might be helpful to know (surprised if you don't already though) 
> that if you create a copy (ie back-up in case it goes wrong!) of an Odt and change the 
> file-ending from odt to zip.  Then the zip opens easily to show all kinds of interesting things 
> inside the container-format.  The main bit is the 
> contents.xml
> which you might be able to edit in a text-editor to do search/find-replace to replace all the 
> xml-coding with html-coding and then drag it and the folders (such as the images folder) out of 
> the zip file.  
>
> I'm not sure how efficient that approach is!  For most of us it'd be a complete nightmare but 
> i've got a feeling you might find that the best route for you!  
> Regards from 
> Tom :)  
>
>
>
> On 19 September 2014 12:49, Hal Vaughan <hal@halblog.com> wrote:
> BlueFish is a strange WYSIWYG editor.  If I remember, you can edit HTML in one window or pane 
> while watching the results in another, but I may misremember.  I don’t know why they don’t just 
> go all the way and allow straight WYSIWYG editing.
>
> I’ll check on TinyMCE.  I don’t think I had found that one.
>
> I’ve considered Dreamweaver.  If it weren’t monthly subscription based, I might spring for it 
> once, but I’ve also tangled with fixing sites people have done in Dreamweaver and found just a 
> huge mess of extra Javascript and HTML stuff that just wasn’t needed.  I understand - it’s all 
> done in templates and as interconnecting blocks and they have to make sure it all works together, 
> but when you get to editing it directly, it’s no fun.
>
> The broader context?  My fiancée and I are looking for land to buy to build a house on.  We want 
> acreage and a place where it can be quiet and wooded.  To make it short, we’ve looked at all 
> properties for sale in the past year and a half, and now we’re searching for properties that are 
> owned but don’t have anyone living on them.  I’ve used GIS info and tax records.  (I retired 
> early from a business I ran based on data mining, so that was easy to sift through.)  That leaves 
> 1,200 sites that meet the numerical requirements, so I’m running a mini-website on my MacMini 
> server that’ll let us see the Google Map images of the lots (with boundaries drawn over the maps) 
> and let us page through them and reject a lot quickly.  (As opposed to taking info and having to 
> type it into Google Earth or Google Maps one at a time.)
>
> I haven’t done HTML work in a few years, but it’s one of those things that comes up ever now and 
> then.
>
> The site is made up of 4 web pages with changing content and an approximately 1,000 line Python 
> wsgi script.
>
> Thanks for the other suggestions.  I’ll definitely look into TinyMCE and see what that has.
>
>
> Hal
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi :)
> > Sorry!  I though Bluefish WAS a wysiwyg editor :(  I've just done a search
> > in my app-store/package-manager and found that tinymce claims to be a
> > wysiwyg editor.
> >
> > I tend to use Joomla to directly edit my (well, my bosses) company's
> > website.  That had a built-in wysiwyg editor (tinymce as it happens) but i
> > prefer to work on the html itself so i switched to a plain-text editor.
> > Drupal does something similar.  Both are probably over-kill for what you
> > are looking for.  They kinda replace Dreamweaver in many ways although
> > Dreamweaver can be plugged in as a front-end to make it easier to do some
> > things.  Wordpress probably does the same thing but even though it's
> > supposedly much simpler it's still probably overkill.
> >
> > What is the broader context for this?  Do you have a web-facing website (ie
> > one that anyone can access over the internet) or an internal website that
> > can only be accessed over an internal LAN such as within a company?  Is the
> > website hosted by a web-hosting company such as JustHosts or 1and1 or
> > someone?  Most have a "1 click installer" for  Joomla, Drupal and Wordpress
> > but it still takes quite a bit to figure out how to use such programs.  If
> > the site is hosted on your own or your company servers then installing
> > Joomla, Drupal or Wordpress can be a bit tricky.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 19 September 2014 11:14, Alexander Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Le 19/09/2014 01:07, Hal Vaughan a écrit :
> > >
> > > Hi Hal,
> > >
> > > > Overall, yes as Alex says, LibreOffice, as an HTML editor, is crippled.
> > > At some point I have a question on another issue I want to post relating to
> > > the HTML editor and how converting to HTML can seriously mung the whole
> > > layout of an ODT document.  (But that’s a whole separate issue.)
> > > Unfortunately, Dreamweaver has the market and I don’t want to spend a ton
> > > (or, as it is now, a monthly subscription) for it and I can’t find a good
> > > HTML editor for OS X for a lower price.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I take it that iWeb.app doesn't do what you are looking for ?
> > >
> > > You might want to look at BlueGriffon :
> > >
> > > http://bluegriffon.org/pages/Download
> > >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
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