Re: [libreoffice-users] Parts of document set to read-only by Writer: how to disable (normal methods not working)?

Just a thought, but wouldn't "View | Navigator" help here? On a simple
test document in Writer, after inserting a table within a table, I see
two tables listed in Navigator. They appear under each other, so there
is no way to tell that they are nested, but double-clicking on them
takes one to the first cell in each, so I can tell from that where the
tables are. Although I do note that when I have an inner table in the
first cell of an outer table, double-clicking on either table in
Navigator takes me to the first cell in the inner table. But by
right-clicking on the table in Navigator, I can select "Table | Edit"
to bring up the "Table Format" dialog, though again I note that doing
so for either the outer table or the inner table in the first cell
edits the format of the inner table, which I assume is a bug, and
should probably be reported.

Surely this would help to determine if the OP does indeed have two
nested tables, as Brian suspects?


Paul



On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:58:09 +0100
Mark Bourne <libreoffice-ml.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> wrote:

> Vincent Rubiolo wrote:
> > Hello Brian
> >
> > On 08/25/2014 10:28 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> > > One possibility here is that structure of your document is more
> > > complex than simply cells of table. Have you perhaps got a table -
> > > even if only of a single cell - inside a cell of another table? If
> > > so, you may have the relevant cell of the outer, containing table
> > > protected with the cell of the inner table not protected. As the
> > > outer cell is protected, you cannot change the properties of the
> > > inner table cell, so the Cell > submenu there will indeed show a
> > > greyed-out <No selection possible>.
> > >
> > > The solution is to unprotect the outer table cell. If there is no
> > > room to get your cursor into the outer table cell without it being
> > > also in the inner table cell (so you cannot get to the relevant
> > > context menu), put the cursor at the end of the text in the inner
> > > cell and press Alt+Enter. You'll then have space to get to the
> > > context menu you require.
> > >
> > > I trust this helps.
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion. Even though the document structure is
> > very simple (I don't think there are nested tables), I have tried
> > what you advised. However, this does not work because 'Alt+Enter'
> > modifies the cell (inserts a newline),something I cannot do for my
> > read-only cell. The key combination thus does nothing, whereas it
> > does insert the newline when I am in the other part of the document
> > (the one which is writable).
>
> That suggests that you do have tables within cells of an outer table, 
> since Alt+Enter otherwise does nothing.
>
> Another thing you can do to access the outer table cell is to
> position the cursor at the end of the last cell of the table which is
> within another table's cell, and press the right arrow key. The
> cursor moves out of the inner table, but still within the outer
> table's cell. It looks like a new line has been added, but that's
> just for display and still works even when the cell is protected; the
> extra line disappears again if you move out of that cell without
> adding anything.
>
> If you're not sure which cells might be the last cell of an inner
> table, it's probably the last one which you can't modify. Otherwise,
> just try pressing right arrow from the end of each cell in turn.
>
> > Unless you have more suggestions, at this point, I think I will
> > open a bug report so that I can attach the document and people can
> > try things out.
>
> Bug reports are for reporting faults in the software. Unless the 
> protected areas of the document have resulted from a bug, the report 
> will quite likely be closed as invalid since the software is working
> as intended by not allowing changes to protected cells.
>
> You're better off uploading the document to a file sharing service,
> and pasting a link here. Alternatively, I hear the Nabble interface
> to the mailing list allows you to upload attachments and includes a
> link in the message email, although I've never used that so can't say
> how to do it: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html
>
> Mark.


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