On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote:
On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you
know how
difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place.
In the
past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best
settings to use, but these suggestions either don't work if you try
to
export to another format or else have been made obsolete by changes
to
the program over the year.
In preparation for my upcoming book on OpenOffice/LibreOffice, I'm
hoping
to solve this problem once and for all. Could anyone who is
interested
reproduce the two methods below, then try to break them by copying
and
pasting, adding text around the graphics, and anything else you can
think
of? I would be very interested in hearing results, especially on
platforms other than Linux.
Method #1: Right-click on a graphic, and select Picture -> Options
->
Protect _> Position and Size.
Method #2:
1. Turn off auto-caption in Tools > Options
2. Create table with 1 column, 2 rows. Set space above and below.
Do not
allow to splilt across page or column, or keep with next paragraph,
do
not create heading row.
3. Set space above and below table (multiple of line height)
4. Place picture in 1st row. If you have trouble placing it in a
cell,
space down in the cell a few times before inserting the picture.
5. Position picture: either move using alignment or, if you want an
indentation from the left, adjust from right, subtracting space
from the
total width of the table.
6. Add caption in second row. If graphic is indented, you will need
to
create a caption paragraph style with an indent.
7. In table context menu, unselect Table Boundaries. For
convenience, you
may want to unselect only before you print.
Thanks to anyone whose curiosity or need encourages them to join
the
experiment.
I don't have problems with placing graphics where I want them,
but
then again, I do not wrap any text around them. Perhaps this is the
problem?
I have a file created by LibreOffice 4.1.6 and 4.2.4 that has 73
graphics
and 4 images. I have no problem keeping them where I put them. The
name of
the file is BG4204Forms20140501.odt. It is available for download
athttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation. You will need to
scroll down to the Base Guide section of this web page.
Another thought that may or may not have anything to do with
the
problem. These are the settings that I use in Tools > Options >
Memory:
Undo steps: 20, Graphics cache Use for LibreOffice 252MB, Memory per
object 2.0MB, Remove from memory after 1:00 (h:m), number of objects
252.
When inserting a graphic, the following steps are used:
1. Create a paragraph style for the frames with the alignment
centered
and any other style properties needed.
2 Create an empty paragraph.
3. Create a frame anchored to this paragraph
4. Anchor the frame as a character
5. Insert the caption in the bottom of the frame.
6. Insert the graphic in the frame
7. Anchor the graphic as a character).
Over the past 10 years or more I have been doing this without
any
problems in any of the chapters I have written for the ODFAuthors
group.
There is one more thing that I do that automates several of
these
steps: I use AutoText. It creates the frame with steps 1, 3, 4, and
5.
This just leaves me to create an empty paragraph, insert the graphic,
and anchor it as a character. In addition, I also resize the frame if
I
think it needs it.
Thanks for your input. What operating system are you using?
I've tried the technique you mention, but for me (and many others), it
doesn't
seem to work. I don't think that wrapping the text has anything to do
with the
problem, because, if anything, graphics that don't have any wrap tend
to stray
more often than those that do.
However, the memory settings may have an effect, so I'm going to do
some
experiments. Perhaps the failure arises because not enough memory is
allocated
for large graphics?
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