Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote:
> On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
> > If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how
> > difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the
> > past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best
> > settings to use, but these suggestions either don't work if you try to
> > export to another format or else have been made obsolete by changes to
> > the program over the year.
> >
> > In preparation for my upcoming book on OpenOffice/LibreOffice, I'm hoping
> > to solve this  problem once and for all. Could anyone who is interested
> > reproduce the two methods below, then try to break them by copying and
> > pasting, adding text around the graphics, and anything else you can think
> > of? I would be very interested in hearing results, especially on
> > platforms other than Linux.
> >
> > Method #1: Right-click on a graphic, and select Picture -> Options ->
> > Protect _> Position and Size.
> >
> > Method #2:
> >
> > 1. Turn off auto-caption in Tools > Options
> >
> > 2. Create table with 1 column, 2 rows. Set space above and below. Do not
> > allow to splilt across page or column, or keep with next paragraph, do
> > not create heading row.
> >
> > 3. Set space above and below table (multiple of line height)
> >
> > 4. Place picture in 1st row. If you have trouble placing it in a cell,
> > space down in the cell a few times before inserting the picture.
> >
> > 5. Position picture: either move using alignment or, if you want an
> > indentation from the left, adjust from right, subtracting space from the
> > total width of the table.
> >
> > 6. Add caption in second row. If graphic is indented, you will need to
> > create a caption paragraph style with an indent.
> >
> > 7. In table context menu, unselect Table Boundaries. For convenience, you
> > may want to unselect only before you print.
> >
> > Thanks to anyone whose curiosity or need encourages them to join the
> > experiment.
>
>       I don't have problems with placing graphics where I want them, but
> then again, I do not wrap any text around them. Perhaps this is the problem?
> I have a file created by LibreOffice 4.1.6 and 4.2.4 that has 73 graphics
> and 4 images. I have no problem keeping them where I put them. The name of
> the file is BG4204Forms20140501.odt. It is available for download
> athttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation. You will need to
> scroll down to the Base Guide section of this web page.
>       Another thought that may or may not have anything to do with the
> problem. These are the settings that I use in Tools > Options > Memory:
> Undo steps: 20, Graphics cache Use for LibreOffice 252MB, Memory per
> object 2.0MB, Remove from memory after 1:00 (h:m), number of objects 252.
>       When inserting a graphic, the following steps are used:
> 1. Create a paragraph style for the frames with the alignment centered
> and any other style properties needed.
> 2 Create an empty paragraph.
> 3. Create a frame anchored to this paragraph
> 4. Anchor the frame as a character
> 5. Insert the caption in the bottom of the frame.
> 6. Insert the graphic in the frame
> 7. Anchor the graphic as a character).
>
>       Over the past 10 years or more I have been doing this without any
> problems in any of the chapters I have written for the ODFAuthors group.
>       There is one more thing that I do that automates several of these
> steps: I use AutoText. It creates the frame with steps 1, 3, 4, and 5.
> This just leaves me to create an empty paragraph, insert the graphic,
> and anchor it as a character. In addition, I also resize the frame if I
> think it needs it.

Thanks for your input. What operating system are you using?

I've tried the technique you mention, but for me (and many others), it doesn't 
seem to work. I don't think that wrapping the text has anything to do with the 
problem, because, if anything, graphics that don't have any wrap tend to stray 
more often than those that do.

However, the memory settings may have an effect, so I'm going to do some 
experiments. Perhaps the failure arises because not enough memory is allocated 
for large graphics?

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