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Hi :)
i assumed it is a 3rd party database program that contains the tables of
data.  Base is usually excellent at linking to such external databases.  It
seems to be the best way of using Base and the default way of using it.

The idea is that Base then performs various functions through SQL code; to
sort, filter, concatenate, link and all the rest.  All this is done kinda
invisibly, or with a view that most normal users couldn't really cope
with.  Like watching a play from back-stage.

Then Calc or Writer get used to produce reports or forms or letters in a
user-friendly way.  The reports don't contain the data, neither does Base =
they are just like looking through different windows into the database
tables that are held externally.

So, i don't know what R is either.  I get the impression that if it is a
3rd party database program it's something hideously mangled = as if
produced by a micro-managing, non-expert committee.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 1 May 2014 13:36, Jacqueline Tarleton <jacqueline.tarleton@gmail.com>wrote:


"But I am getting more comfortable with using R itself to answer these..."

Excuse my ignorance - What is R?

This particular Thread has provided amazing details on the limitations of
Libre Office Calc, tips, hints, and workarounds- except do not know what is
R. I apologize in advance for not offering a solution. Jackie
On Apr 17, 2014 5:57 PM, "andrewH" <ahoerner@rprogress.org> wrote:


Thanks Tom!

Gnumeric is a great product and I have used it before. I was hoping to

use

Calc in this case because I am trying to learn to use the LO database,
Base, as a stand-alone or a front end for PostgreSQL. But I find it very
hard to define, use, and even just to import a file into a database if I
can not first look at it and determine how missing variables are coded,
which fields are character and which are numeric, etc. Some census

products

are really good at giving users this kind of metadata, others not so

much.

(The Economic Census metadata is hard enough to read and understand

(would

you put material intended to explain something to the public in
pipe-delimited text?) that I have written to them asking for meta-meta
data). So I wanted to use Calc for exploration and base to do the heavy
lifting, in the hope that things might be easier if I stayed withing one
document family. Now I am thinking that some other approach will be

easier.


Warmest regards, Andrew


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 2:09 AM, TomD [via Document Foundation Mail

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Hi :)
Try Gnumeric;
http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html

It's a dedicated spreadsheet program with a tiny footprint that uses
minimal resources, so it's faster, lighter and more robust than Excel
or Calc.  Many people find Gnumeric to be better than Calc or Excel
for serious or hefty spreadsheets and/or for handling many more
spreadsheets in a shorter time-frame.

It can be installed alongside LibreOffice and/or MS Office.  It uses
the same format as LibreOffice natively so most spreadsheets can be
bounced between the 2 programs quite happily.

Part of the advantage of LibreOffice is that it fits well into a wider
eco-system and co-operates well with a wider range of programs and
suites allowing you to tailor individual machines to specific
use-cases and yet still retain the ability to share files between
different machines and different people using different OSes and
programs.

Regards from
Tom )




On 5 April 2014 06:43, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[hidden email]<

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On 04/04/2014 07:44 PM, andrewH wrote:


I am working with a data set that keeps causing my LibreOffice to

freeze.

I
am pretty sure that this is only because it is big. It is a

pipe-separated

text from the US Economic Census imported into Calc, about 30

columns

and

around a million rows. (The actual data set is bigger, but Calc

quits

at a

million-odd. The complete file is about 0.8 gig.) I suspect but can

not

prove that this is related to file handling somehow, e.g. breaking

down

during auto-saving. The first time I saved the data as a Calc file

it

took

nearly an hour with the "soffice.bin *32" process running at 25

percent

of

CPU time and using about 825 meg of memory the entire time. (Not

sure

why

this is showing up as a 32-bit version).  And when Calc freezes, all

the

LibreOffice programs freeze. So I can't just switch to another file

and

noodle away while waiting.



It looks to me as though Calc cannot handle more than 1048576 rows of

data,


Do you have more rows than that? If yes, then I think that you cannot

open

the file.

If you have less than that, and, if you think that you are simply

running

out of memory.... if you can figure out how to get the data to me, I

can

run

a test on a 64 bit version (running on Linux). My machine has 32 GB

of

RAM...


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