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It's no secret that LO users tend to dislike M$. While I love LO, I've tended to give M$ perhaps more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. I still use Windows 7 on my laptop, although after many fits and starts, I have finally succeeded in getting a true dual boot Ubuntu setup. I'm using Ubuntu as much as I can to see just how much (or little) I still need Windows.

But, last evening, M$ threw me a curveball that I found utterly unacceptable. In addition to my laptop, I have a slightly older desktop that runs Windows XP. In the last few says, the XP machine has been acting *very* strangely. I've run RKill and virus scans, which have come up empty. Then, I noticed a GREAT BIG RED "X" on my Security Essentials icon. I clicked on it to read M$'s message: The OS is no longer supported (which I knew) and, therefore, Microsoft Security Essentials will no longer work properly (which I did not know). Ergo, my computer is now considered "at risk." M$ was kind enough to provide a link to "End of Support Guidance."

To play along, I clicked the link and was taken to a M$ website. The website suggested that I upgrade to Windows 8.1 at a cost of between $120 and $200 (personal vs. pro). But, it warned me that if my PC were too old, then 8.1 wouldn't work. So, my other option? M$ suggests I buy a new PC. The gall; buy a new PC because M$ chooses to no longer support the OS? No thanks. They were also kind enough to provide a link where I could check to see if my PC would run 8.1. Since I have no intention of purchasing 8.1, I declined their offer to have my PC checked.

Of course, I have another option. Now that I'm growing more and more comfortable with Ubuntu, I'll just install it on my desktop. While I still have Windows 7 on my dual boot, I may go whole hog with the desktop and completely blow off Windows... since M$ doesn't consider it worth their time to support it anyway.

Now, I realize that the day will come when my Ubuntu 12.04LTS will no longer be supported. But, there are a couple differences. First, Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such warning when I purchased my XP machine years ago. Second, when 12.04LTS support goes by the wayside, Ubuntu will have another *free* alternative available; and even if they don't, there's always Debian, Mint, Mint Debian, OpenSuse, Puppy, Slackware, Fedora, Puppy, Slax, and on and on.

Sorry M$ (and Urmas). While I have tried to avoid the M$ rage I've read on this and other lists, your latest consumer disrespect has thrown me over to the dark side.

Give me penguins.


On 04/22/2014 02:43 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Not quite.  It may have changed the name of the formats it uses twice but
OOXML (the .docX etc) has at least 4 different versions including 3
different "transitional" versions and all are apparently quite different
from the version they managed to get accredited as an ISO format.

The older format (.doc etc) also seem to vary considerably between each
different version of MS Office.

MS Office 2010 or 2013 often has problems opening documents created in MS
Office 2007.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 22 April 2014 19:06, Urmas <> wrote:

"anne-ology"       MSFT has been/is making their system(s) incompatible
with others in

order to reap a higher profit-margin  ;-(

For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.

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