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Hi :)
In general it's safe to assume that whatever Urmas writes is the exact
opposite of reality.  I think most people can spot the absurdities or

For example
1.  "Gary Kildall, creator of CP/M" attempting to assert copyright is
written as though the whole notion of copyright doesn't exist
2.  as James and Italo point out wrt "easy and open" and has been
pointed out many times on this list.

Even MS Office users often have trouble reading documents that have
been saved in MS formats using previous versions of MS Office.  Of
course it's fair to assume there might be problems opening documents
saved in future versions of a program or ones saved in really ancient
versions of a program.  MS Office has those problems too.
LibreOffice, OpenOffice and the rest seem to manage to avoid that sort
of thing being a problem by using a format that
1.  is fully documented, without that being excessively long (was it
something like under 3k pages compared against OOXMLs 11,000?)
2.  is implemented as per the documentation
3.  still has the filters used for very old formats

On the other hand Urmas does give some good help to people and often
about fairly technical or obscure things.  So, that is much
Regards from
Tom :)

On 7 April 2014 00:46, Jay Lozier <> wrote:

On 04/06/2014 05:04 PM, Urmas wrote:


When WordPerfect 5.x arrived, there was even the ability to display a
graphic preview (almost WYSIWYG) display of the printed output on a normal
character screen - and this was available not only for DOS versions, but
a wide variety of platforms such as the then popular DEC and DG terminals.

You are trying to defend a text processor which stores text in a
proprietary encoding in the obscured format. Comparing to this, MS Word
which used easy and open file format was a clear winner.

I am not sure of my time line, but I remember only proprietary formats for
early desktop applications and every software house had their own formats.
The problem occurred because no one expected the problems with file type
obsolescence. I doubt you can easily find a program that will open most word
processing or spreadsheets from the before 1990 and you with some difficulty
find one that will convert the old formats to a current one.

Jay Lozier

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