Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'

Hi :)
Copy&paste is good wrt my item 3.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 3 February 2014 17:45, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
<webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> YES, F.O.S.S packages share things with other groups, but I really thing
> business users needs the documentation on LO pages and not OOo pages.  These
> people do not understand about the sharing of information between "friendly
> competition" FOSS packages and the lack of info due to the package[s] being
> too "new" or immature to work for them.
>
> I really would hope the first place for our users for information would be
> on a LO site or in LO docs.  So I feel we need to have the business
> information for deployment and migration in the LO wiki system and not ask
> the business users to go to our "friendly competition" for that info.  It
> just does not look well for us and those who market and support LO to the
> business users.
>
>
> On 02/03/2014 12:27 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > You are not alone in that opinion but i can see it from other angles too.
> >
> > 1.  The way i see it is that LO and AOO are produced by 1 large
> > community.  There are quite a few people who work in both or move from
> > 1 to the other and sometimes back again.  The mainstream press seems
> > to think we fight and argue constantly and that seems to have boosted
> > coverage for both projects.  AOO aims at a slightly different niche
> > from LO although both have a lot of ground in common.  It's NOT a case
> > of us against them.  It's both of us and others (Caligra/KOffice,
> > Google-docs, AbiWord&Gnumeric etc) acting in "co-operative
> > competition" with/against each other against a dominant market-leader.
> >
> > 2.  I copy&pasted one page from OOo's documentation into our own wiki
> > and the original author proof-read it for us.  He was more than happy
> > to share the knowledge and help distribute it widely.  Since then
> > others have made a better page and Hagar has updated his one in AOO so
> > 'mine' has fallen quite far behind and rarely gets visited now.  I'll
> > set it as a redirect to the updated one someday.
> >
> > 3.  I agree that business people are probably unfamiliar with the
> > concept of co-operative competition and that it might even scare them
> > off from using either of LO and AOO!!  Corporate-types are often timid
> > when in unfamiliar terrain so it's better for us to appear to be easy
> > for them to understand (imo)
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 February 2014 16:47, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> > <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:
> > > On 02/03/2014 08:48 AM, Marcello Romani wrote:
> > > > Il 03/02/2014 13:21, IOmazic ha scritto:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > is it possible that you share this tools for windows? I will need to
> > > > > install
> > > > > it to around 450 pc, so it will be cool to have some tool to do all
> > > > > modification needed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > Ivan Omazic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > View this message in context:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-deployment-tp4077035p4095225.html
> > > > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > > > This might prove a useful starting point:
> > > >
> > > > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=28765&start=0
> > > Why are people still sending others to the OpenOffice.org web site for
> > > information about LibreOffice?
> > >
> > > For this posted need, I remember hearing about "deployment" of LO on a LO
> > > web page.  Although LO was a fork of OOo from several years ago, it is
> > > "grown" past those roots now.  If we do not have the needed documentation
> > > now, we should really make it a priority to set up a web site/page to
> > > talk
> > > about IT management deployment of LO, including network based.
> > >
> > > The current AOO/OOo web site should not be the place where people go to
> > > get
> > > information about LO.  From a marketing aspect, this could lead business
> > > users to think we are not the package to use, but AOO is.  That is wrong
> > > way
> > > of doing "business".
> > >
> > > SO, just from the marketing aspect to businesses, this needs to be
> > > resolved.
> > >  From the typical user, this could be an issue as well.
> > >
> > > I stopped using OOo when LO came out.  I do not want to have to explain
> > > to
> > > users that LO's documentation site[s] is not the place to find the needed
> > > information to migrate/deploy LO to their systems.
> > >
> > > Would you tell the UK tech advisors to not consider LO for the open
> > > source
> > > option to using the mandated ODF file format requirements, but to go with
> > > AOO/OOo since we do not have the needed documentation?  We would be
> > > saying
> > > this if we tell them to go to the OOo web site for the deployment
> > > information.
> > >
> > > I see too many of these postings telling users to go to the OOo site[s]
> > > for
> > > the needed information or extension/template download.  Yes, there may be
> > > something there that LO currently does not have, but it should not be the
> > > first option.  LO needs to rely on LO's sites to give the user the help
> > > and
> > > support they need.
> > >
> > > I do not use Nabble, but I would think that there must be a forum there
> > > about business migration and deployment.  IF not, then there should be.
> > >
> > > Am I alone in this opinion?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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