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Yes Eric, those problems are surely related as crashes are involved in my
case as well (and I "fixed" it in the same way).
The implication is that temporary saves are not encrypted. Given the modest
size of **usual** files this could probably be done with little performance
loss but after all, this behavior is acceptable in my opinion. Should a
user need more protection, (s)he should likely consider full file-system


2013/12/18 Eric Beversluis <>

I don't know if this is relevant to Massimo's case but it might be:
I had a problem a while back with Fedora 15 (and I don't remember which
version of OO or LO): I would discover that I could open a
password-protected spreadsheet without being prompted for the password.
It turned out that it had something to do with Fed 15 shutting down w/o
prompting to save an open and changed spreadsheet. When restarted, the
spreadsheet would open without password protection. The workaround
seemed to be to do a 'save as' at that point and check 'save with

More recently this hasn't seemed to be a problem, but I think it has
happened once or twice, though I didn't bother to try to figure out why.

On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 09:24 -0500, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 12/17/2013 10:12 AM, Massimo Del Zotto wrote:
However, I recently had a problem with OOo password protection.
Somehow it
disabled password protection for a file I was working on and it took
me a
while to restore it. Asking for help on OOo forum, I have been informed
password protection is somehow considered "unnecessary" by... I don't
who to be honest.

You mean recently?As in the latest version of LO has a problem with

The forum administrator strongly
suggested me to not use it, and even pointed out a few previous cases
which password protection caused data loss (!!!).
Which forum, do you have a link to the post?

I think *this is unacceptable *so I started looking more seriously at
Digging the mailing list archives, I noticed there are quite a few
regarding password protection. It seems most problem were between
and chair, the only exception being perhaps an inter-operability
after switching to AES-256.

In your experience, how is LO with password protection?
Massimo, you seem to be more informed of this than I, but, I am only
aware of one (what I consider) real bug that existed with LO and
passwords. At one point, I was no longer able to open a password
protected file. Specifically, one version of LO was not able to open a
password protected file.  I am pretty sure it was LO and not AOO anyway.

I believe that I have seen things such as:

1. I forgot my password, how I open my document
2. I am not able to open a password protected document created by MS
3. Problems signing a document

I don't ever remember anyone saying that password protection should be
dropped. Does not mean that it has not been said. I have seen people
pushing to drop the ability to write non-ODF format, but I don't
remember anyone advocating no support for passwords.

I have also seen reports of another bug that sometimes causes total data
loss of a file, but, since it is not reproducible in any sort of
meaningful way, the bug has not been researched.

Andrew Pitonyak
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