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On 11/9/13 5:37 PM, M. Fioretti wrote:
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:06:44 PM -0800, Pedro wrote:
Two points:

1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1
(released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In
my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file
exchange format.

Fair point. I would really put "ignoring which fonts are portable" in
the "over-engineered documents" category of my post, but you are right
that if embedded fonts are a must, ODF isn't ready.

Embedding fonts *is* a must. Just because two users each have Times-Roman, for example, it doesn't mean the fonts are identical. So the formatting of the document will change between users.

Been there, done that too many times.  :-(

2) Advocating ignoring MS files only makes sense on a personal
basis. Por companies that is absurd.

that's why in the 2001 thread and in many other things I wrote since
then I said that the way to practice that advice was to put pressure
on public administrations to make them only accept/release in those

Maybe academia could start that movement but it will take time
before it reaches the companies...

maybe people should start that movement. Start to complain, even if
you know that it won't accomplish anything immediately, whenever you
are asked or given a .docx file. Otherwise we'll still be here in 2025
to hear from people that receive such files, and the only solution is
to give up using LO.



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