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We all have had favorite packages for doing documentation over the
years.  I am an avid user for LO, but I remember the days before LO/OOo
came out.  I used different packages for different applications, and use
MSO only when I had to.  I use to use word processors that looked more
like text editors.  I really do not remember all of the packages I had
tried over the years, but I did have copies of Works, WordPerfect, and
MSO 95-2003.  My first-favorite was PC-Write, where I helped create
printer "drivers" for the package.  Of course that was DOS days.

Starting with Windows, I had to use WordPerfect and Word, depending on
who the documents were for.  But, with older, slower systems, the newer
Word/MSO was getting too bulky and slow for ease of use.  I was lucky
that OOo just came out about then. 

Even with LO as my office suite, I still use Kate [Ubuntu Linux] for the
text editor and Kompozer for WYSIWYG editing.  I use NoteTab and/or
NotePad ++ in the Windows systems, when I need a text editor instead of
a word processor.

I do not need to use LaTeX or similar options, but if I did then I would
either add an extension to LO to do it or find an editor dedicated for
that type or work.

I am of the school of "what ever way is easiest for me/you is the best
way for me/you".  I use Writer to make signs, that are not complex
enough to need Corel Draw, Inkscape, or Draw.  Actually, sometimes I
power up a Windows boot on my laptop to run a package or two there that
are easier and faster to use than anything I have on my Linux system [my
main/default desktop is Ubuntu 12.04 with 6 TB of drive space].  Then,
once I have done the work, I move it over to my Linux desktop for
farther processing and/or storage.  Of course, I have LO on all my Linux
and Windows systems [both single or dual booting systems]

On 11/02/2013 05:57 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I don't want to speak for Urmas, or necessarily defend him, but I use
many programs in addition to LO for my work, and in many respects I
prefer other options over LO. I've often spoken of the Atlantis Word
Processor, a very small Word clone that I keep going back to for its
simplicity, speed and stability. And, aside from creating tables, it
does all I need in word processing (and has the best built-in Epub
converter that I've seen in any word processor). I've also been
playing recently with markdown editors like WriteMonkey and ReText. I
like typing a plain text file and having it formatted by a separate
CSS file. There's a simplicity about it that is quite enjoyable. I've
used LaTeX and LyX on occasion. And, my job requires me to use (and
teach) Microsoft Office. I even have an old version of WordPerfect on
my system for those rare times I need to read its files from colleagues.

So, why am I here on this list? I still use LO for those tasks that
can't be accomplished by my other simpler tools. When I need tables, I
use LO Writer. Also, I use Calc and Presentation and Base for many
tasks, none of which are supported in the dedicated editors that I
tend to prefer over LO.

LO is the digital equivalent of my minivan. It does everything, but
often isn't very fun, precisely because of its relative complexity.
Atlantis is my sports car; small, light and fun, but not very
practical when I need to haul a sheet of plywood.

So, I stay on this list to keep learning about the program, and I've
learned plenty from y'all.

I hope that blind devotion to LO over all other computing tools
doesn't become a prerequisite for discussing its relative merits and
failings on this list. Last I saw, this is a *user's* list, not
necessarily a *cheerleader's* list.


-----Original Message----- From: Fred James
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re:
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Urmas wrote:
"Jay Lozier":

Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages.

There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office.

Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC
was released.

They didn't design the first, but they have designed the best
So tell me, Urmas, if you find MSO to be the best, why are your here on
an LO list?
Fred James

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