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Right on the money I believe...

Step 1: formulate a proposal that allows the current owner to retain his emotional attachment to the site and yet still allows others to participate in the process.

Step 2: ask him. I am more than happy to do that, but, I lack the skills or time be a real system administrator. So, I suppose that we would also need to have people who would be willing to help with that.

The current forum uses a very old version of the software, would be nice to bring it up to date.

On 08/15/2013 08:00 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I've not been a long term user (or contributor) of the site but i agree with Dave Barton about this.

Maybe if a one or 2 of us could approach the owner?  Let him know there might be a way for him to 
retain control but also make it easier for him to manage?  It sounds like a simple day-to-day chore 
took down the website and that could be taken care of by someone or some organisation he could 
delegate that sort of thing too?

Regards from
Tom :)

From: Dave Barton <>
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013, 12:40
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] shifting focus to licencing

Nino Novak wrote:
Am 14.08.2013 18:39, schrieb Dave Barton:
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 08/13/2013 02:32 AM, Dave Barton wrote:
1. The independent "unofficial" one Jim was
referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server
is at best unreliable and frequently times out.
oooforum was setup and is controlled by a single very busy person with
no help from anyone else in any way. So, it uses resources available to
this person and is maintained by this person. The other forum is
maintained by a group of volunteers so there are more people to fix it.
so this looks to me like people have contributed to a site which took
their knowledge but later did (or does) not present it back to the
public in a satisfactory way.
Based on my years of experience as a user of the site, I seriously doubt
that this was/is the owner's intention.

Two thoughts:

1 - Does the owner sufficently understand the public need for high
availability of the forum's content?
I am convinced that he does. The problem appears to be twofold:
   1. His personal workload prevents him from giving sufficient attention
to server administration and spam elimination.
   2. His reluctance to accept much (if any) outside assistance.

2 - How is the forum's content licenced?
I have never found any notice on the site to indicate what the content
licence is. IANAL, but the absence of such I notice and no mention of
content licensing in the "Registration Agreement Terms", would lead me
to believe the content is public domain, just like this email.

The good news is that the site is currently accessible, albeit with the
usual amount of spam adorning the main page.


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