Re: [libreoffice-users] shifting focus to licencing

Right on the money I believe...

Step 1: formulate a proposal that allows the current owner to retain his 
emotional attachment to the site and yet still allows others to 
participate in the process.

Step 2: ask him. I am more than happy to do that, but, I lack the skills 
or time be a real system administrator. So, I suppose that we would also 
need to have people who would be willing to help with that.

The current forum uses a very old version of the software, would be nice 
to bring it up to date.

On 08/15/2013 08:00 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> +1
> I've not been a long term user (or contributor) of the site but i agree with Dave Barton about this.
>
> Maybe if a one or 2 of us could approach the owner?  Let him know there might be a way for him to 
> retain control but also make it easier for him to manage?  It sounds like a simple day-to-day chore 
> took down the website and that could be taken care of by someone or some organisation he could 
> delegate that sort of thing too?
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave Barton <db@tasit.net>
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013, 12:40
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] shifting focus to licencing
> >
> >
> > Nino Novak wrote:
> > > Am 14.08.2013 18:39, schrieb Dave Barton:
> > > > Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
> > > > > On 08/13/2013 02:32 AM, Dave Barton wrote:
> > > > > > 1. http://www.oooforum.org The independent "unofficial" one Jim was
> > > > > > referring to. For reasons nobody has been able to explain, their server
> > > > > > is at best unreliable and frequently times out.
> > > > > oooforum was setup and is controlled by a single very busy person with
> > > > > no help from anyone else in any way. So, it uses resources available to
> > > > > this person and is maintained by this person. The other forum is
> > > > > maintained by a group of volunteers so there are more people to fix it.
> > > so this looks to me like people have contributed to a site which took
> > > their knowledge but later did (or does) not present it back to the
> > > public in a satisfactory way.
> > Based on my years of experience as a user of the site, I seriously doubt
> > that this was/is the owner's intention.
> >
> > > Two thoughts:
> > >
> > > 1 - Does the owner sufficently understand the public need for high
> > > availability of the forum's content?
> > I am convinced that he does. The problem appears to be twofold:
> >    1. His personal workload prevents him from giving sufficient attention
> > to server administration and spam elimination.
> >    2. His reluctance to accept much (if any) outside assistance.
> >
> > > 2 - How is the forum's content licenced?
> > I have never found any notice on the site to indicate what the content
> > licence is. IANAL, but the absence of such I notice and no mention of
> > content licensing in the "Registration Agreement Terms", would lead me
> > to believe the content is public domain, just like this email.
> >
> > > Nino
> > The good news is that the site is currently accessible, albeit with the
> > usual amount of spam adorning the main page.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
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