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On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:32:47 -0400, Tom Davies <> wrote:

Hi :)
Nice answer! Good to have links in there too. I really thought that the poor-man's copyright was a legit way but now it';s obvious that it couldn't be. It's waaay too easy to fake it.

Under US law a copyright exist once the work is fixed. Registration allows one to pursue various legal remedies more easily.

That was interesting about the Berne Convention. Next time the issue crops up i might look into that more. My boss was asking about how to apply copyright to something a couple weeks ago so i just pointed him to "Creative Commons" without really knowing what i was doing.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)

Creative Commons and the various FOSS licenses are based on copyright. What they do is explicitly grant the user specific rights under copyright law (eg the right to make copies, availability of the source code). These do not invalidate copyright but exploit the fact the copyright owner actual has the right to issue a work under any terms they choose from essentially public domain to "all-rights reserved" of the traditional copyright notification.

From: Toki Kantoor <>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 3:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] License for a LO Calc document?

On 30/07/13 21:48, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

If you take a printed copy and a CD copy of the spreadsheet. Add all of
the documentation about how, and when you made it.  Then mail it to
yourself.  Make sure it is sealed very, very well, so no one could say
you placed the stuff in the envelope at a later date.

What you describing is usually referred to as _The Poor Man's
Copyright_. is
description of its validity in the United States. describes issues with using it
in the United States. provides examples
of why it usually is not accepted as proof of copyright.

mailing to start and then get involved with a copyright lawyer.

If the idea is to prove dates, then have somebody other than your lawyer
notarise each page, and give the resulting notarised on each page
document to your attorney.  But this only works in countries in which
there is no central registration, _and_ where such registration is not
mandatory for pursuit of damages in a court of law.

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