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On 07/26/2013 05:11 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
On 07/26/2013 02:34 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote:
On 07/26/2013 11:52 AM, Sina Momken wrote:
On 07/25/2013 04:29 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Sina
Sina Momken schrieb:
Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example

Level    Example(desired output)    Associated Paragraph Style
1     Chapter 3:        Chapter
2      3.2-            Heading 1
3       3.2.5-        Heading 2
4        Heading 3
5         (b)        none
6          Fig (3.12)    Fig Caption
7           (3.27)        Formula
8        Table (3.20)    Table Caption

As you can see in the example above the '3' in "Fig (3.12)", "(3.27)"
and "Table (3.20)" is the chapter number at level 1.

How can I achieve my desired output I mentioned in first example using
LO Writer?

You do the outline numbering with Chapter, Heading 1 , ... with normal
outline numbering. You need to define a paragraph style "Chapter" and
alter the assignment between paragraph style and level in the outline
numbering dialog.

LibreOffice uses the field "Number range" for numbering in captions.
Therefore these are not at all in the outline numbering. But when you
insert a caption to a table or figure, you will see a Options-buttons.
There you can tell LibreOffice to count newly for each chapter.

The "caption" item in the context menu is only a shortened way to set a
caption. You can also write your own caption inserting the field
range" manually. That will be the right way for numbering formulas.

The Autotext FN puts the formula and the formula-numbering in a
table. I
would not use it, because it is not easily possible to move paragraphs,
when the movement crosses a table. I would position the formula number
using a tab. For display formulas in own paragraphs you can define a
suitable paragraph style.

The captions are normal paragraphs, so you can add the needed brackets
manually as you need them.

Each "Number range" will generate its own index later on.

The numbers of the outline can be inserted using fields.

Do not try to mimic the way things are done in Word, the concepts are
different. But you can be sure, that you can write well formatted
academic papers in LibreOffice.

Kind regards

Using LibreOffice internal captions or "Number range" has some problems
that MUST be solved to be used:

1. Cross-Reference in the text body: Assume you has inserted a new
"Number range" named "Fig" either using "Caption" or inserting manually.
Regardless of the need to manually correct brackets and the whole
format, when you want to insert the Fig number in your text using
Cross-reference, there is NO way to insert the whole Fig number while
preserving its format. For example if you has entered the text "Fig
(2.1) something" under a picture, there is no way to automatically
insert "Fig (2.1)" in your text using Cross-reference.

I first must admit that I didn't read this whole thread and I'm not
sure what you actually need, but think you can insert text "Fig (2.1)"
in a cross reference.

I hope I understood you well and I really wont to help you:

First you should insert your picture and set anchoring as Regina said.
Then insert text "Fig." after that go Insert - Cross-reference, choose
Variable tab and there (in format box) select Text, enter e.g "(2.1)"
and then write rest of the caption text.
There is no need to insert "(2.1)" in this way manually. This way of
inserting caption numbers doesn't count automatically and is not
recommended at all. The "Number range" solution which Regina has also
explained above is much better.

Now select only "Fig. (2.1)" or what ever you need and go to
Cross-reference tab, choose Set reference, enter it's name in Name
box, and choose Insert.

Place your cursor in desire position and then in Cross-reference tab
choose insert reference, select reference, and in a white box left to
the Name select Reference, hit Insert.
This is good way to define a reference to any position of document and
then refer to it (or its page number, etc.) later. But as I said before
referring to a "Number range" could be enough. However I have to retype
"Fig (" before and ")" after where I want to insert a reference to a

I hope that's what you wont to do. You still have to manually insert
Variables and set cross-reference, but you sort the brackets problem.
Manually inserting variables is very bad idea. The alternatives I've
described above are better.


And, you can always define a custom style for that "Fig (2.1)" variable
text and then go Insert - Indexes and tables - Indexes and tables -
Additional styles, choose three dots right to label and define that
style to level you need...
I already knew this way to make table of figures using specific
paragraph styles. I think this is best (or maybe only) way to make table
of figures and and it was one of the reasons I wanted to assign a
paragraph style to fig_captions.

Not sure does thins helps you, but hey... :)

Thank for your suggestions,

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