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Hi :)
"new and improved" is hopefully a duplication rather than a contradiction!  lol.  Not always true, 
of course.  

English (US) does tend to use different prepositions under English (GB).  Out advertising people 
also seems to just muddle them down to try to reinforce their message.  Council estate kids and 
common usage also messes things into.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





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From: Brian Barker <b.m.barker@btinternet.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 2:46
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax


At 21:06 16/07/2013 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
As long as we are going to entertain off topic, how about this.

[One] common figure of speech in English is the use of "Try and" 
where the meaning is "Try to".  I.E. I'm going to try and drive my 
car backwards for three miles.  When I see it, or hear it, I wonder, 
"Are they going to try the car, or are they going to drive the 
car?"  Make up my mind!

I have to say I also prefer "try to" to "try and", but Henry Fowler 
says of the figure of speech given the classy Greek name "hendiadys" 
(or one-through-two):

... 'nice and warm', 'try and do better', 'grace and favour', 
instead of 'nicely warm', 'try to do better', 'gracious favour' are 
true examples.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendiadys .  Advertisers use it when 
they claim their product is "new and improved" (which is a 
contradiction), meaning "newly improved".

Brian Barker


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