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Hi :)
I think initially posting a bug-report is fairly intuitive.  This guide
helps.  It does ask for a lot more detail than you might be able to give in your initial report but 
you can always add that detail later in further posts to the thread of the report.  It's much the 
same as writing an email to this list tbh.
Regards from 
Tom :)  

From: Tim Vivian-Griffiths <>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013, 19:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and Subscript size

Hi all,

Late reply, been finishing off something - but I can get back to 
thinking about superscripts again! Yes Virgil, I think we've got a 
similar problem... I can change the size of individual cases, but there 
is no way I have found that I can just set the new size once, and then 
all others follow suit from then on. I have tried to fill in all of my 
details in the way that was mentioned earlier, but to no avail. 
Therefore I will submit it as a bug. I've never done that before - I'm 
guessing it's pretty intuitive... am I right?

I really wish I had the skills to fix this myself, after all, that's one 
of the benefits of having access to the source code isn't it! One day 


On 03/06/13 12:53, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I have not read this entire thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating 
others or writing something that doesn't quite fit.

I've found that I can change the size of superscripts by changing 
their attribute in the Superscript character style.

The problem I've found (which may be the same as y'all) is that 
selecting the superscript toolbar button doesn't apply my newly 
changed superscript size. The program says that it's applying the 
superscript character style, but it's not applying my customized size 

So, instead of applying superscripts through the toolbar button, I 
apply them by selecting the character style. I get what I want, but 
it's not a very intuitive way of getting there.


-----Original Message----- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and Subscript size

Tom, and the others. . . .

I do not find in the "Tools" menu options any place that defines the
subscript and superscript sizes.  I know where to change the size from
the 58% to 50% or other size, but not where that default size is stored
and can be save for the next time.

I believe [but never done this] you could set the size and save it
"someway" as the default document.  If that works, it may allow you to
set the character size of the "scripts" to whatever works for your
needs.  Or you could save a page, with the size change[s], as a template
and us it that way.  But I never changed the default document or made
template that actually show up when I save as template and then try to
open a new document from the templates.  The paths shown in "Tools >
Options > LibreOffice > Paths" shows the "save as template" file
locations in the "hidden" dot config folder system, which LO does not
show the proper config template folder in the "Open > Template" options.

Maybe you can create another path for your saved templates, but right
now, it does not work.  I think it is a bug in the 4.0.x system though.

So has someone made the bug report?

Any good and easy work around?

Saving a document as a .ott file and placing it into a personal or
business template folder withing you standard "My Documents" type of
folder for Windows, or  in Linux a
"/home/"user"/Documents/LibreOffice/business/templates/" type of folder.

It would be nice to be able to make the change to the superscript size
and then it will reflect that change when you do another manual or
"automatic" script set of characters.  like - 1^st , or 2^nd , H_2 O
[the "st" and the "nd" should shown as superscripted and the "2" in H2O
should be subscripted]

On 06/02/2013 07:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahhh, that's where it is.  It's never made any kind of sense to me 

Tools - Options - LibreOffice - User Data
   is the right place, i think.  Still, it doesn't need all field to 
be filled in apparently and even just any 1 field with about 1 word 
is plenty.

Thanks Girvin!
Regards from
Tom :)

From: Girvin R. Herr <>
To: Tom Davies <>
Cc: Tim Vivian-Griffiths <>; LibreOffice 
Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2013, 20:54
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and Subscript size

Is this the same "bug" that prevents things from working when the Tools
-> Options -> LibreOffice -> User Data section is not filled in?
As a retired Electronic/Software engineer, I think that bug is silly 
sounds deliberate - especially since it has been known and not fixed 
a long time.  But that may just be my paranoia showing.

Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
No worries about the duplicates to me.  Pressing Delete 3 times 
instead of 2 is pretty easy for me.

There is some weird bug that means a certain setting keeps getting 
forgotten when there is nothing in
File - Properties - Descriptions
but you don't need to fill it in substantially.  Even just a word 
per section is more than enough.  I don't think that is likely to 
be the problem because someone else would have picked it up by 
now.  So, i think starting a bug-report would be a good plan.

Regards from
Tom :)

From: Tim Vivian-Griffiths <>
To: Tom Davies <>
Cc: Steve Edmonds <>; LibreOffice 
Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2013, 14:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and Subscript 

Hi Tom

Sorry for the later reply on this. Thank you for this information,
really useful as I have never done it before. I'll also fill in that
information to see if it helps at all.

Thanks again,


PS, sorry for duplicating this Tom... I pressed Reply instead of
Reply-to-all the first time!

On 31/05/13 10:40, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Given the answers in the thread at AOO i suspect it is a bug.

Here is a guide to help post a bug-report.  Don't take it all too
seriously.  They ask for a lot but if it's not easy to give all that
straight away just post anyway.  Later on you can add comments so 
can get all the required information together in the report in a few
posts at your own pace.  It might be that they are able to help
without even having all the info straight away anyway.

If this list does solve the problem you can always close the report
and let people know how and that might help those people over at 
AOO too.

Just out of curiosity do you have any of the general information, 
as user-name and stuff 'filled in'?  There was something that only
worked if you had at least 1 or 2 characters, even empty spaces in
there.  Aaargh, i'm at a Windows machine that doesn't have 
or even OpenOffice, yet.  I might have to make sure i get the 
version worked out in case i'm ever here again!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)


        *From:* Tim Vivian-Griffiths <>
        *To:* Steve Edmonds <>
        *Cc:* Tom Davies <>; LibreOffice
        *Sent:* Friday, 31 May 2013, 10:15
        *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and
        Subscript size

        Hi all,

        Actually none of these things are happening Tom. The only 
way that
        I can get what I want is by selecting every instance 
        which is just impractical.

        Steve, I can do exactly the same as well but once the 
changes are
        selected there is no difference at all when I start typing. I
        select my desired size and click Apply, then when I reopen 
        document... the changes are still there. However, when I 
        Ctrl-Shift-P to get superscript (or Ctrl-Shift-B for 
        the size is back to 58%. As I said before, I can change it 
after I
        have typed it by selecting it and then going to Format ->
        Character and changing it to 70%. I just cannot find a way 
so that
        whenever I toggle super/sub-script on... I get the desired 
        I've followed the directions in the writer guide, and this 
        to me to be intuitively what should be done... but no 
effect takes
        place. That's why I thought it could be a bug.


        On 31/05/13 09:48, Steve Edmonds wrote:
        > Hi.
        > I have Default showing as my style (dropdown above and 
to left
        of the typing area), just typed some letters on a page, right
        clicked, Edit Paragraph Style....
        > There I change the superscript and subscript values to 
say 40%.
        I apply and exit.
        > If I exit LO and then start a new document the 
superscript and
        subscript are still 40%.
        > This is in LO3.6 and 4.1. The automatic box is ticked.
        > Does this describe what you are wanting to do.
        > steve
        > On 31/05/13 10:41 AM, Tim Vivian-Griffiths wrote:
        >> Dear all,
        >> Thank you very much for your replies. Here is the link 
to my
        post in the forum:
        >> I have put a fair bit of description of the issue 
there, but
        let me know if I can give any more information. I have 
tried to
        save the changes as a template and then save it and make it
        default, but it didn't change anything unfortunately. I 
think the
        main problem is that the Automatic box gets checked again 
as soon
        as I close the window. It's not a problem that arises when
        starting a new document but as soon as I try to make the 
        >> I know that this is a small issue, but it would be 
great to
        solve it as the size of 58% just looks ridiculous :-\
        >> Tim
        >> On 30/05/13 23:18, Steve Edmonds wrote:
        >>> Hi.
        >>> To have the settings (changes) you make stay for a new
        document you may need to make these changes to the default 
        and then save the document as a template and make it your 
        >>> This is the first thing I do as I do not like the 
default font
        and margins.
        >>> Steve
        >>> On 2013-05-31 09:06, Tom Davies wrote:
        >>>> Hi :)
        >>>> Did you get any answers at all over at the AOO 
forums? Any
        chance of giving us a link to your thread there?
        >>>> Regards from
        >>>> Tom :)
        >>>>> ________________________________
        >>>>> From: Tim Vivian-Griffiths <
        >>>>> To: LibreOffice <
        >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 17:54
        >>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and
        Subscript size
        >>>>> Dear all,
        >>>>> Just wondering if someone could help me with this. I 
        posted a question in the openoffice forums, but I wasn't 
able to
        get any help, and someone advised me to maybe report a bug.
        >>>>> Basically, I am trying to change the default size of 
        superscript and subscript to make them larger than 58% 
which is
        the default. I have tried to change them by modifying the 
        under styles and formatting 'Position' tab. I change the 
size and
        uncheck the 'Automatic' box for both superscript and 
        but as soon as I close the window, the changes do not take 
        and then when I reopen the Position tab, the Automatic 
boxes are
        checked again.
        >>>>> Of note, I can change the size if I highlight the 
        section and then change it via the Format -> Character 
        however, I do not want to have to do this every time. I am 
        LibreOffice version in Ubuntu 12.04.
        >>>>> Many thanks,
        >>>>> Tim
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