[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] ”Artifacts” in OpenOffice and LibreOffice

Hi :)
Ahh, great to hear someone else prefers Unity to KDE!  I think the KDE team are great and doing 
great stuff and my neighbour thinks it's fantastic.  I just find myself enjoying Unity nowadays but 
i'm glad KDE is around.  

Hmm, do you have to buy a whole new computer just to get a new graphics card?  My current desktop 
has had 4 new graphics cards over the years.  But it's also had 2 changes of fans, 1 new 
power-supply, more ram, 3 new hard-drives, 3 'new'(ish) Cpus and 2 new mbords, err and 2 new cases 
(hence the change of fans).  There's still 1 of the fans that has been in all combinations.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  






> ________________________________
> From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org; LibreOffice Användare <users@global.libreoffice.org>; Ubuntu 
> Användarforum <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2013, 20:43
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] ”Artifacts” in OpenOffice and LibreOffice
>
>
> 2013/5/11 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <andrew@pitonyak.org>:
> > I have had subtle redraw issues with OO off and on, and I always blamed it
> > on an interaction between applications and the video drivers. Realize that I
> > use nVidia video cards on 64-bit Fedora using the proprietary video drivers.
> > What I saw was not remotely as bad. Admittedly, when I tried out the latest
> > dev build, it was totally unusable (of course, the single tester was unable
> > to reproduce on Windows 7).
> >
> > see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122214
> >
> > Are you able to do a test and change your video driver say between the free
> > and not free driver to see if there is a change (I do not use Ubuntu so I
> > don't have a good handle on what drivers are available or how).
> >
> > I used to have exactly the same problem in QT, and it was very bad. I was
> > able to avoid the problem with QT Creator by starting it using
> >
> > -graphicssystem raster
> >
> > Not that I expect this to help you. I did notice that it still has some
> > rendering issues that appeared in the latest versions (I believe it is
> > related to an over-lay issue when you edit a field.... that assumption
> > allowed me to fix it in the software that I write, but I did not jump into
> > the QT code base).
> >
> > I have seen strange redraw issues so long in OO that correcting for it is
> > almost automatic in my brain (scroll screen up then down to clear) so I
> > cannot even say if I still see the problem. I think I do, but it is for sure
> > not as bad is it used to be for me.
> >
> > I know, that I have rambled on and on.... I will summarize in saying
> >
> > 1. I have never seen it so bad
> > 2. I have seen screen corruption
> > 3. You may avoid some of it based on the video driver
> >
> > If I had it that bad on my Fedora system, I would likely change my desktop
> > on login to see if it helped. With Fedora, I can easily jump between Gnome
> > and KDE (as one example). I would also try jumping between the two different
> > drivers available to see how that helped as well. Sadly, the "free" driver
> > is poor with respect to 3D stuff.
>
> Thanks for your input, and also thanks to all of you who replied.
>
> I did some more tests and I found that it seems to be a problem
> related to the fact that my graphics card is blacklisted for use with
> Unity 3D.
> First I installed KDE, just to see what happens. I wasn't sure what
> package to install, so I installed kde-full, which maybe was a bit
> overkill…
> I logged out and then in to KDE, configured the driver to use both
> screens, then I opened a spreadsheet. Oddly enough, it tried to open
> the file with an archive manager, so I had to manually tell it to open
> with OpenOffice. I then opened the Basic IDE window and I found no
> problems what so ever, except that I don't like KDE, but that's
> another question…
>
> I didn't try the free driver, but maybe I will later.
>
> Right now I am logged in to Unity 2D and that also works flawlessly. I
> don't like Unity 2D either, though. I miss some Compiz effects, among
> other things… Maybe I just have to live with it until I buy another
> computer with a non-blacklisted graphics card…
>
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>
> > On 05/11/2013 08:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> > > I have had this problem for quite some time now (months if not years)
> > > in LibreOffice and OpenOffice. The problems are maybe a little bit
> > > worse in LibreOffice, but I didn't exactly measure it…
> > >
> > > It looks like a graphics card problem, but why are nothing else
> > > affected? It only happens to OpenOffice and LibreOffice. I tested a
> > > few versions and it seems to not matter. The screenshots are taken
> > > with Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 and I saw the same thing in LibreOffice
> > > 3.5, 3.6 and 4.0. I think this also happened with earlier LibreOffice
> > > versions, like 3.4 and 3.3. I didn't use OpenOffice since 3.2 (except
> > > 3.4.1, which I use these days), and I don't even remember what it
> > > looked like.
> > >
> > > Here's a screenshot with Apache OpenOffice Calc 3.4.1. I added some
> > > arrows pointing at the problem areas:
> > > http://ubuntuone.com/0wvqcaN38PC5835t4uJVPv
> > >
> > > The worst thing is when I try to use the Basic IDE, take a look at
> > > this. Very hard to write and edit code when it looks like this:
> > > http://ubuntuone.com/4HRPQMpblZT97UxHq5ggzO
> > >
> > > My operating system is Ubuntu 12.04 and the more stuff I run at the
> > > same time, the worse will it look.
> > >
> > > My graphics card is the nVidia GeForce Go 7300, which is blacklisted
> > > for use with the Unity 3D desktop, so that may be what's causing this
> > > problem, but still it ONLY happens to LibreOffice and OpenOffice.
> > >
> > > One thought that I have is that LibreOffice and OpenOffice are not GTK
> > > applications (I think – are they?), but on the other hand, neither is
> > > my web browser (Opera), and I don't have these problems with it.
> > >
> > > Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org were installed with the official
> > > deb files. The LibreOffice version that came with Ubuntu 12.04 was
> > > carefully removed before installing what I have now.
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Anyone else saw this?
> > >
> > > Packard Bell Easy Note MX66 laptop, made in November 2006.
> > > 2.0 GiB RAM, Genuine Intel® CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz × 2.
> > >
> > > Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (32 bits)
> > > Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-41-generic-pae
> > >
> > > nVIDIA Driver Version: 304.88
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Pitonyak
> > My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
> > Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>
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