Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc

Hi :)
The "Websites Team"'s mailing list might know fancy ways of grabbing the appropriate data.  


Have you been able to try out the Extension suggested earlier in the thread?  Here's a guide on how 
to install Extensions 

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/HowTo/install_extension

Just out of curiosity, is there some word. phrase, set of numbers or some other identifier on lines 
you want to capture?  Some starting-marker?  Perhaps something to indicate end-of-line (or even 
end-of relevant bit)?    



As for not being able to completely escape from Windows just don't worry as you are not alone!  
Just because Windows is available on a machine doesn't mean you have to use it.  


I'm not quite sure what you are hearing about dual-boot.  It's really not that complicated.  It's 
pretty much the default way of installing most versions of Gnu&Linux.  In Ubuntu  when you get to 
the "Partitioning" section you are given 3 choices
1.  Wipe Windows and everything else on the drive.  (obviously don't choose this one!  (Jic you 
ever need to return the machine to the shop or send it back to the manufacturers for some hardware 
defect.))  

2.  Ubuntu and Windows (or whatever) side-by-side.  (this is the best option for noobs and is what 
i used first several times).  
3.  Something Else
I like the finesse i can get from the 3rd option but the 2nd one is fine.  I even know some 
experienced Gnu&Linux users  that use it just for it's simplicity.  Just keep clicking on the 
"Next" button to let the installer work it all out for you.  The boot-menu and everything is sorted 
automatically.  It's really no more complicated than choosing English or some other language and is 
even less complicated than choosing your time-zone.  



The stuff about VBA in MS Office vs the 4 options allowable in LibreOffice/OpenOffice is ignorable 
if you don't write macros.  MS keeps assuring us that their macros are safe now and can't be used 
as an attack-vector for malware but force people to accept a  disclaimer that pops-up warning about 
the risk of running a macro and keep giving us "security updates" about it.  While the MS version 
of "Basic" has been traditionally used as an attacker vector the LibreOffice/OpenOffice variant of 
"Basic" has not ever been used to compromise systems afaik.  Plus you don't have to use "Basic" and 
could choose to use a variety of more popular and more secure proper programming languages.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Supiramani Supiramani <hisupiramani@hotmail.com>
> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, 21 April 2013, 11:59
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to 
> grab specific web data into libre calc
>
>
>
> > Hi :) 
>
> Hi Tom and others !
>
> > 1.  I was thinking more like a couple of days. 
> > Sundays might be good to catch the weekend crowd and
> > still catch the early week-days people. 
>
> sure
>
> > 2.  Do you need to grab all the time or can you leave
> > the grabs to batch process them?  
>
> batch process would do . grab data once in two days say .....
>
> > If rebooting into
> > Windows is something you only need to do 1/day or
> > something then it might not be so tough.  
>
> I plan to get out of windows totally ...but that is a plan 
>
> > Typically new machines come with Windows included in
> > the price and may even cost more without Windows. 
>
> I didn't know this ... hmm... then my plan fails ! I can stop writing here :-( !
>
>
> > It's a bit bizarre.  It's partly due to bulk
> > purchasing and partly due to special deals made on the
> > obligatory bundled software.  Some people call it "the
> > Windows tax" because it means every new pc sale
> > generates some income for MS regardless of whether it
> > will ever get used or not. 
>
> I see 
>
> > In
> > the unlikely event that you have the installer Cds for
> > your old version of MS Office you might be able to
> > install that on your newer machine 
>
> I do NOT have the old CDs
>
> > The easier route is to just drastically shrink the
> > Windows partitions and avoid booting into them at all.
>
> ok
>
> > Install Ubuntu (or whatever) as a dual-boot but just
> > avoid using the Windows on that drive.  If you already
> > had your old hard-drive from your old machine plugged
> > in when installing Ubuntu then you old version of
> > Windows will automatically appear in the boot-menu but
> > if you add the drive later (my preferred way) then
> > just updating grub adds it in. 
>
> I have to check IF there are web tutorials on how to do this ..... I know you have written a lot, 
> but I'm lost when it comes to dual boot / dos commands / Cont + alt + T etc !!! :-(
>
> > 4.  MS Office is horribly bloated with tons of stuff
> > that 90% of users never use.  
>
> agreed 
>
> > As for VBA isn't that based on Basic which was
> > popular in the 1980's?  LibreOffice/OpenOffice seem to
> > offer a choice of 4 languages for macros.  I think
> > Python is probably far better and more secure but
> > apparently Javascript is another alternative.  
>
> I din't know this. even IF I did , do I know how to use phython ? NO.. !! so ..., I've lost you on 
> a lot of what is said after this line ! :-(
>
>
> > I've
> > not heard of BeanShell before.  If you really need
> > Basic then LibreOffice/OpenOffice basic is different
> > enough that the malware that macros are famous for
> > don't work or are unlikely to work in LibreOffice.  I
> > don't think MS Office lets you choose different
> > languages for macros.  Python sounds like a much
> > better option. 
> >
> > Regards from
> >
> > Tom :)  
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards
>
>
>
>
>         From: Supiramani
> Supiramani <hisupiramani@hotmail.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 8:20
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to 
> grab specific web data into libre calc
>   
> Thanks Tom 
>
> Detailed replies once again from you .... Much appreciated ....
>
> I'm afraid I can't keep up with you !:-) 
>
> 1. Posting at other forums ...what do you suggest ? Wait for a week and post same question 
> elsewhere ? So that regular readers don't get piss3d off ? Or ? I will at least wait till end of 
> weekend 
>
> 2. Yes... I have tried this use parallel machines windows and Ubuntu side by side ... Ms office 
> and libre side by side  concept. I think this web page data grabbing
> is the main limitation as far as I am concerned ...my usage is concerned. The rest are small 
> inconveniences . I don't k ow for sure. I may find more areas. 
>
> 3. having two machines , dual boot etc etc ; i hope to hold on to the old windows machine for some 
> months, try back and forth, decide if there are some very critical problems / areas not addressed 
> by ubuntu etc. but the age of the old machine and other factors may finally decide it ( Dual 
> system ) ...  I may have to move to a new machine soon. On the new machine I will NOT buy windows 
> and ms office because that seems costly to just experiment ..... the machines are just about the 
> same. windows and ms office adds some $250 or so on top. so i do not plan to buy windows again on 
> the new machine. so the age of the old machine will decide how long I can hold on to windows , ms 
> office 
>
> 4. My experiments so far tell me that ms office has these additional functions and a large VBA 
> library
> and help forums which may be missing or which may be just under development in libre office etc 
> ...that seems to be the catch 
>
>
> Thanks and regards
>
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:49:07 +0100
> From: tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to 
> grab specific web data into libre calc
> To: Hisupiramani@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org
>
> Hi :)
> So the official forum is at
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
> along with a ton of other stuff.  Ubuntu is so huge that it easily supports several communities 
> and there is
> another forum at 
> http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
> and there is the cross-distro forum at 
> http://www.linuxquestions/org
>
> The Windows way is to slash-and-burn, to completely lose the older system when you want to move to 
> something new (or just different).  This means you get stuck with Win7 (or Win8 or whatever) 
> before you have any idea how to use it.  
>
> The Gnu&Linux way is to install alongside so that you can keep using the older system so that you 
> can keep meeting deadlines but allows you to test-drive the newer system and gradually become more 
> familiar with
> it.  
>
> A good migration path into Ubuntu is to 
> 1.   use some of the same apps in Windows.  So move away from Internet Explorer and start using 
> Firefox (so you can still use IE if you need to), install
> LibreOffice/OpenOffice in Windows but keep whatever version of MS Office you use, Gimp instead of 
> Photoshop and so on until you feel comfortable with change.  
>
> During that phase it's good to get an old machine out of a cupboard or something so you can try 
> installing Ubuntu (or whatever) as a Dual-boot without losing Windows.  It's reasonably easy and 
> has a fairly automatic path but it's still a good idea to have a practice.  Ubuntu is one of the 
> few that has a cunning way of installing inside Windows but it's better to do a proper dual-boot.  
>
> 2.  At first you are probably going to boot into Windows more than Ubuntu.  Don't worry about it.  
> Just push yourself into using Ubuntu to
> explore.  
>
> 3.  Eventually you will start finding things are faster and often easier in Ubuntu although there 
> are probably a couple of things you feel the need to tweak quite a bit.  There may still be
> one or 2 odd things that you haven't had time to figure out so it's easier to keep the Windows for 
> those rare things.  Probably most of us have a Windows fairly near at hand, although outside of 
> work i would be hard-pushed to find mine nowadays.  In work i probably use them about 
> half-and-half.  
>
>
> When NASA find a new place far from Earth they don't start by trying a landing straight away.  
> They have a 3 step process with each step learning more and more until they know enough to have a 
> reasonable chance of a smooth landing rather than just crashing
> 1.  Fly-by
> 2.  Orbit
> 3.  Test-landings
>
> In most engineering disciplines it's generally considered a good idea to build a mock-up
> or prototype before launching into full-scale production.  
>
> So quite why the Windows world wants you to always abandon your working system and replace it with 
> something completely new and different is a bit
> of a mystery.  It makes people nervous about trying the new thing if they can't return to their 
> familiar system.  
>
> Regards from 
> Tom :)  
>
>
>         From: Happylibre
> <Hisupiramani@hotmail.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 0:29
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
> specific web data into libre calc
>   
> Hi
>
> I'm planning to use Ubuntu
>
> I forgot to add that answer on my earlier reply
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:00:05 -0700
> From: ml-node+s969070n4051163h58@n3.nabble.com
> To: Hisupiramani@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web
> data into libre calc
>
>
>
>     Hi :)
>
> You are asking in the right place and hopefully someone might have a good 
>
> answer for you or be able to point to places that might have more 
>
> detailed knowledge of what you are looking for.  Most of us started with Windows and many of us 
> still use it a lot.  
>
>
>
> I tried a search for "smb" and then for "web" on our Extensions / Add-ons / Plug-ins site 
>
>
> http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=&getCompatibility=any&sort_on=positive_ratings&path=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-center&portal_type=PSCProject&SearchableText=web
> but didn't find much.  It might be better to search in OpenOffice's 
>
> Extensions as many of them probably still work well or have maintainers 
>
> that might be interested in updating it in order to make it work in 
>
> LibreOffice.  Also the OpenOffice forums might be a good place to post 
>
> questions but if you do and post here as well then it's polite to let 
>
> both places know when you have found an answer and what the
> answer was.  
>
>
>
> Also most versions of Gnu&Linux (=distros) have their own forums and 
>
> mailing lists so it might similarly be good to post questions there in a similar way.  Which 
> distro do you use at the
> moment?  Ubuntu/Mint, 
>
> Mageia, Fedora , openSUSE or which?  DistroWatch is a good place to 
>
> look-up the official forum/mailing-list for your distro
>
> http://distrowatch.com
> for example to find the Ubuntu ones try here (it redirects)
>
>
> http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
> for Fedora find some good links here
>
> http://distrowatch.com/fedora
>
> There is also a general-purpose forum at 
>
>
> http://www.linuxquestions/org
> that covers
> many, maybe all different distros but often you get answers from people using completely different 
> distros, possibly even from different families so you sometimes have to figure out how to apply it 
> to yours.  Most programs are either the
> same in each;  LibreOffice/OpenOffice, 
>
> Firefox, Thunderbird and many others.  Sometimes they choose slightly 
>
> different choices such as Chrome, Seamonkey, Opera instead of Firefox, similarly with utilities 
> such as your  "package manager" so it doesn't take much to work out how to apply their advice and 
> people at LinuxQuestions might even help with that.  
>
>
>
> Also there are other LibreOffice places such as AskLibO
>
>
> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/
>
> and other places you can find at 
>
>
> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
> but i still prefer this mailing-list.  
>
>
>
> Good luck and regards from 
>
>
> Tom :)  
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________
>
> > From: Supiramani Supiramani
> <[hidden email]>
>
> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> 
>
> > Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 20:12
>
> > Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
> > specific web data into libre calc
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > please take a look at the image at 
>
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>
> > you will see it has 100s of data
>
> >
>
> > copy paste would take
> ages
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --------
>
> > regards
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:08 -0500
>
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
> > specific web data into libre calc
>
> > From: [hidden email]
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > CC: [hidden
> email]
>
> >
>
> >        Could you highlight the area(s) you desire then copy then paste to wherever you wish the 
> > data?
>
> >             that's my system;
>
> >        [but I may not be understanding to what you're referring since I have no clue as what smf 
> > is  ;-)  ]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Happylibre wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Preamble ...skip if in a
> hurry
>
> >
>
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > *I've been on the m$ office treadmill for 15 + years
>
> >
>
> > *I've always been scared of Linux and thought it was all command line
>
> >
>
> > *Recently stumbled on Linux and libre office ...so I am  completely new to
>
> >
>
> > libre
> office
>
> >
>
> > *Used it for a few days ... Truly it's a great piece of software and
>
> >
>
> > dispelled most of my doubts on Linux, using Linux, libre office etc etc
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Question / request reading
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > *However some specific doubts remain on libre office
>
> >
>
> > *I've been using M$ XL's add on for grabbing web data , called smf add in
>
> >
>
> > *When activated, once could easily grab specific pages,
> specific cells of
>
> >
>
> > web pages directly into xl ( without opening a web browser)
>
> >
>
> > *This is a great time saver
>
> >
>
> > *The only and only /  excellent  group for using smf add in  can be found at
>
> >
>
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/
>
> > *Some  basic write up on using smf add in can be found here
>
> >
>
> > http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/326478-derek-a-barrett/1414481-automating-alpha-getting-started-with-stock-market-functions-smf-add-in-for-excel
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Now, my question is , is there a similar add in for libre
> office, when
>
> >
>
> > invoked , could help the user  get specific cells ( not the whole web page )
>
> >
>
> > from a URL  into libre xl sheets ? Of course the user supplies the URL
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Or is there some app in Linux that can do the same
> ?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > How do people grab specific web data ( not entire pages ) but specific data
>
> >
>
> > for web pages into libre calc ?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Request to Moderators ; if I am posting on the wrong area or group please
>
> >
>
> > most this post accordingly
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> >
>
> > Regards
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
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