RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web data into libre calc

> Hi :) 

Hi Tom and others !

> 1.  I was thinking more like a couple of days. 
> Sundays might be good to catch the weekend crowd and
> still catch the early week-days people. 

sure

> 2.  Do you need to grab all the time or can you leave
> the grabs to batch process them?  

batch process would do . grab data once in two days say .....

> If rebooting into
> Windows is something you only need to do 1/day or
> something then it might not be so tough.  

I plan to get out of windows totally ...but that is a plan 

> Typically new machines come with Windows included in
> the price and may even cost more without Windows. 

I didn't know this ... hmm... then my plan fails ! I can stop writing here :-( !


> It's a bit bizarre.  It's partly due to bulk
> purchasing and partly due to special deals made on the
> obligatory bundled software.  Some people call it "the
> Windows tax" because it means every new pc sale
> generates some income for MS regardless of whether it
> will ever get used or not. 

I see 

> In
> the unlikely event that you have the installer Cds for
> your old version of MS Office you might be able to
> install that on your newer machine 

I do NOT have the old CDs

> The easier route is to just drastically shrink the
> Windows partitions and avoid booting into them at all.

ok

> Install Ubuntu (or whatever) as a dual-boot but just
> avoid using the Windows on that drive.  If you already
> had your old hard-drive from your old machine plugged
> in when installing Ubuntu then you old version of
> Windows will automatically appear in the boot-menu but
> if you add the drive later (my preferred way) then
> just updating grub adds it in. 

I have to check IF there are web tutorials on how to do this ..... I know you have written a lot, 
but I'm lost when it comes to dual boot / dos commands / Cont + alt + T etc !!! :-(

> 4.  MS Office is horribly bloated with tons of stuff
> that 90% of users never use.  

agreed 

> As for VBA isn't that based on Basic which was
> popular in the 1980's?  LibreOffice/OpenOffice seem to
> offer a choice of 4 languages for macros.  I think
> Python is probably far better and more secure but
> apparently Javascript is another alternative.  

I din't know this. even IF I did , do I know how to use phython ? NO.. !! so ..., I've lost you on 
a lot of what is said after this line ! :-(


> I've
> not heard of BeanShell before.  If you really need
> Basic then LibreOffice/OpenOffice basic is different
> enough that the malware that macros are famous for
> don't work or are unlikely to work in LibreOffice.  I
> don't think MS Office lets you choose different
> languages for macros.  Python sounds like a much
> better option. 
>
> Regards from
>
> Tom :)   



Thanks and regards




        From: Supiramani
 Supiramani <hisupiramani@hotmail.com>
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 8:20
 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to 
grab specific web data into libre calc
   
Thanks Tom 

Detailed replies once again from you .... Much appreciated ....

I'm afraid I can't keep up with you !:-) 

1. Posting at other forums ...what do you suggest ? Wait for a week and post same question 
elsewhere ? So that regular readers don't get piss3d off ? Or ? I will at least wait till end of 
weekend 

2. Yes... I have tried this use parallel machines windows and Ubuntu side by side ... Ms office and 
libre side by side  concept. I think this web page data grabbing
 is the main limitation as far as I am concerned ...my usage is concerned. The rest are small 
inconveniences . I don't k ow for sure. I may find more areas. 

3. having two machines , dual boot etc etc ; i hope to hold on to the old windows machine for some 
months, try back and forth, decide if there are some very critical problems / areas not addressed 
by ubuntu etc. but the age of the old machine and other factors may finally decide it ( Dual system 
) ...  I may have to move to a new machine soon. On the new machine I will NOT buy windows and ms 
office because that seems costly to just experiment ..... the machines are just about the same. 
windows and ms office adds some $250 or so on top. so i do not plan to buy windows again on the new 
machine. so the age of the old machine will decide how long I can hold on to windows , ms office 

4. My experiments so far tell me that ms office has these additional functions and a large VBA 
library
 and help forums which may be missing or which may be just under development in libre office etc 
...that seems to be the catch 


Thanks and regards


Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:49:07 +0100
From: tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to 
grab specific web data into libre calc
To: Hisupiramani@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org

Hi :)
So the official forum is at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
along with a ton of other stuff.  Ubuntu is so huge that it easily supports several communities and 
there is
 another forum at 
http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php
and there is the cross-distro forum at 
http://www.linuxquestions/org

The Windows way is to slash-and-burn, to completely lose the older system when you want to move to 
something new (or just different).  This means you get stuck with Win7 (or Win8 or whatever) before 
you have any idea how to use it.  

The Gnu&Linux way is to install alongside so that you can keep using the older system so that you 
can keep meeting deadlines but allows you to test-drive the newer system and gradually become more 
familiar with
 it.  

A good migration path into Ubuntu is to 
1.   use some of the same apps in Windows.  So move away from Internet Explorer and start using 
Firefox (so you can still use IE if you need to), install
 LibreOffice/OpenOffice in Windows but keep whatever version of MS Office you use, Gimp instead of 
Photoshop and so on until you feel comfortable with change.  

During that phase it's good to get an old machine out of a cupboard or something so you can try 
installing Ubuntu (or whatever) as a Dual-boot without losing Windows.  It's reasonably easy and 
has a fairly automatic path but it's still a good idea to have a practice.  Ubuntu is one of the 
few that has a cunning way of installing inside Windows but it's better to do a proper dual-boot.  

2.  At first you are probably going to boot into Windows more than Ubuntu.  Don't worry about it.  
Just push yourself into using Ubuntu to
 explore.  

3.  Eventually you will start finding things are faster and often easier in Ubuntu although there 
are probably a couple of things you feel the need to tweak quite a bit.  There may still be
 one or 2 odd things that you haven't had time to figure out so it's easier to keep the Windows for 
those rare things.  Probably most of us have a Windows fairly near at hand, although outside of 
work i would be hard-pushed to find mine nowadays.  In work i probably use them about 
half-and-half.  


When NASA find a new place far from Earth they don't start by trying a landing straight away.  They 
have a 3 step process with each step learning more and more until they know enough to have a 
reasonable chance of a smooth landing rather than just crashing
1.  Fly-by
2.  Orbit
3.  Test-landings

In most engineering disciplines it's generally considered a good idea to build a mock-up
 or prototype before launching into full-scale production.  

So quite why the Windows world wants you to always abandon your working system and replace it with 
something completely new and different is a bit
 of a mystery.  It makes people nervous about trying the new thing if they can't return to their 
familiar system.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  


        From: Happylibre
 <Hisupiramani@hotmail.com>
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 20 April 2013, 0:29
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] RE: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
specific web data into libre calc
   
Hi

I'm planning to use Ubuntu

I forgot to add that answer on my earlier reply


Regards


Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 14:00:05 -0700
From: ml-node+s969070n4051163h58@n3.nabble.com
To: Hisupiramani@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab specific web
 data into libre calc



    Hi :)

You are asking in the right place and hopefully someone might have a good 

answer for you or be able to point to places that might have more 

detailed knowledge of what you are looking for.  Most of us started with Windows and many of us 
still use it a lot.  



I tried a search for "smb" and then for "web" on our Extensions / Add-ons / Plug-ins site 


http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=&getCompatibility=any&sort_on=positive_ratings&path=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-center&portal_type=PSCProject&SearchableText=web
but didn't find much.  It might be better to search in OpenOffice's 

Extensions as many of them probably still work well or have maintainers 

that might be interested in updating it in order to make it work in 

LibreOffice.  Also the OpenOffice forums might be a good place to post 

questions but if you do and post here as well then it's polite to let 

both places know when you have found an answer and what the
 answer was.  



Also most versions of Gnu&Linux (=distros) have their own forums and 

mailing lists so it might similarly be good to post questions there in a similar way.  Which distro 
do you use at the
 moment?  Ubuntu/Mint, 

Mageia, Fedora , openSUSE or which?  DistroWatch is a good place to 

look-up the official forum/mailing-list for your distro

http://distrowatch.com
for example to find the Ubuntu ones try here (it redirects)


http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
for Fedora find some good links here

http://distrowatch.com/fedora

There is also a general-purpose forum at 


http://www.linuxquestions/org
that covers
 many, maybe all different distros but often you get answers from people using completely different 
distros, possibly even from different families so you sometimes have to figure out how to apply it 
to yours.  Most programs are either the
 same in each;  LibreOffice/OpenOffice, 

Firefox, Thunderbird and many others.  Sometimes they choose slightly 

different choices such as Chrome, Seamonkey, Opera instead of Firefox, similarly with utilities 
such as your  "package manager" so it doesn't take much to work out how to apply their advice and 
people at LinuxQuestions might even help with that.  



Also there are other LibreOffice places such as AskLibO


http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/

and other places you can find at 


http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
but i still prefer this mailing-list.  



Good luck and regards from 


Tom :)  






> ________________________________

> From: Supiramani Supiramani
 <[hidden email]>

> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> 

> Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013, 20:12

> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
> specific web data into libre calc

>

>

> please take a look at the image at 

> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/

> you will see it has 100s of data

>

> copy paste would take
 ages

>

>

>

> --------

> regards

>

>

> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:02:08 -0500

> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to grab web data into libre office calc ? Or Addons to grab 
> specific web data into libre calc

> From: [hidden email]

> To: [hidden email]

> CC: [hidden
 email]

>

>       Could you highlight the area(s) you desire then copy then paste to wherever you wish the 
> data?

>            that's my system;

>       [but I may not be understanding to what you're referring since I have no clue as what smf 
> is  ;-)  ]

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Happylibre wrote:

>

>

> Hi

>

>

>

> Preamble ...skip if in a
 hurry

>

> --------------------------------------------

>

> *I've been on the m$ office treadmill for 15 + years

>

> *I've always been scared of Linux and thought it was all command line

>

> *Recently stumbled on Linux and libre office ...so I am  completely new to

>

> libre
 office

>

> *Used it for a few days ... Truly it's a great piece of software and

>

> dispelled most of my doubts on Linux, using Linux, libre office etc etc

>

>

>

> Question / request reading

>

> ------------------------------------------

>

> *However some specific doubts remain on libre office

>

> *I've been using M$ XL's add on for grabbing web data , called smf add in

>

> *When activated, once could easily grab specific pages,
 specific cells of

>

> web pages directly into xl ( without opening a web browser)

>

> *This is a great time saver

>

> *The only and only /  excellent  group for using smf add in  can be found at

>

> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/smf_addin/

> *Some  basic write up on using smf add in can be found here

>

> http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/326478-derek-a-barrett/1414481-automating-alpha-getting-started-with-stock-market-functions-smf-add-in-for-excel

>

>

>

> Now, my question is , is there a similar add in for libre
 office, when

>

> invoked , could help the user  get specific cells ( not the whole web page )

>

> from a URL  into libre xl sheets ? Of course the user supplies the URL

>

>

>

> Or is there some app in Linux that can do the same
 ?

>

>

>

> How do people grab specific web data ( not entire pages ) but specific data

>

> for web pages into libre calc ?

>

>

>

> Request to Moderators ; if I am posting on the wrong area or group please

>

> most this post accordingly

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Regards

>

>

>

>                          

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