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       yikes  ;-(
           and the proper way for WIN7 would be ???  ;-)
       I was just about to check into finding more then plopping them in;
now I'll wait for further instructions.

       yep ... I think this 'glorified typewriter' is making me 'feel
stupider & stupider' ...



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:25 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P <
webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:


For the Windows users, and the Linux users, you really should use the font
install procedures.

For Windows, there should be a font listing in its Control Panel and a way
to install fonts there.

For Ubuntu users, all you have to do in click on the font and it should
open the font installation window with the "install" button.  That way you
can see the font before you install it.  I like that better than "dumping"
the font into the hidden ".fonts" folder.  This is mostly the fonts you
install after the fact and not ones installed by the OS.

If you are never going to use any non-English language, then do this. . .

Open LibreOffice and scroll down the list of fonts in the font drop-box in
the "formatting" toolbar.

Look at the fonts that have a name on the left and glyphs on the right.
 This will show for "dinbats" and icon based fonts.  ALSO it will show you
glyphs for the non-English/non-Latin style of fonts.

Think Arabic or an Asian language.

At that point, write down all of the font names that have these fonts you
do not want.  Then go to a package that has a font viewer and search for
the fonts, if the is no file name that matches.  I have a bunch of fonts
like that.

To be honest, there are other places that hold the fonts for Ubuntu, so
you will have to search for then.  BE CAREFUL not to remove any folders or
delete them permanently since you might have removed a needed for for one
of your packages.  My install of Ubuntu has many Middle Eastern and Asian
fonts installed by default, even though I use English for my language.  I
may remove most of them someday, but it will be a slow process so I do not
make any mistakes.  If you use Ubuntu, use the Software Center and look at
the font packages installed.  Then remove those that are not part of your
language, like India or Arabic for English.




On 02/23/2013 08:23 PM, anne-ology wrote:

        Thanks!!!



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:

  On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

        Thank you for responding;
             but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

        the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

        I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ...
and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
             but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

        ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
             but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)


  AAMOF=as a matter of fact

You will find a bunch of directories labelled fonts. You want one that
has
a list of
fonts showing as subdirectories. In my distro (pclos) they're in
/usr/share:

[doug@linux1 fonts]$ ls -la
total 184
drwxr-xr-x  17 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 ./
drwxr-xr-x 266 root root 12288 Feb 22 12:04 ../
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 98304 Jun  8  2011 100dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 75dpi/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 cyrillic/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Sep 22  2011 default/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 encodings/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Feb 22 12:07 java/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 20480 Jun  8  2011 misc/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 OTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Speedo/
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 Feb 19 00:22 truetype/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Aug 20  2012 ttf/
drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 TTF/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun  8  2011 Type1/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Jun 12  2011 ubuntu/
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct 16  2010 webcore/

Notice the names: three sets of true-types, a type 1, even
cyrillic, if you happen to use Russian! All of the Latin letters
can be modified with accent marks, etc. if you make a
compose key. You'll also have  some signs, like €, ¢, ₤,
½, ¼, ß (German ess-tset) and whatever.

I thought I saw, somewhere in this thread, someone who
told where to get the Microsoft fonts--these are True-Tupe,
or ttf, and have the kind of fonts you want so as to look
professional in whatever you write.  BTW, do _not_
remove the old font directory without having one at
hand to replace it with, because if you do, there will be
absolutely _nothing_ readable in any program! As I
have said, all the programs on the system use the
fonts in that font directory. There might be one or two
exceptions, but more likely not.  You don't have to
remove the old font directory--you can just drop the
new fonts in with the old, and you'll just have a bigger
list to choose from. I dumped it, because I thought the
existing ones in Mint were basically useless.
If you have a search routine in your email, search for ms,
I think that's the abbreviation the previous poster used,
when telling how to get Microsoft fonts. They're free, you
don't have to buy them.

Hope that helps.  --doug




On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:

  On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

         Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

  As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the

ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug

 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

   On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

   I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from
the

operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
(let's
say
it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode
00d2, or
Ò). See screenshot 1:

  <http://nabble.**documentfound**ation.org/file/**<http://documentfoundation.org/file/**>
n4039236/Character_Map.png<
http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
n4039236/Character_Map.png<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Character_Map.png>



But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
Webdings,
it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See
screenshot 2:

  <http://nabble.**
documentfoundation.org/file/****n4039236/Libre_Office_**<http://documentfoundation.org/file/**n4039236/Libre_Office_**>
characters.png<
http://nabble.**documentfoundation.org/file/**
n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.png<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4039236/Libre_Office_characters.png>





Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
characters
(A-Z and a-z) are correct.

I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
search
for
characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
them
in
Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
Viewer,
and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)

I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre
Office
4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).

Thank you.



   My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at

  /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/****fonts/truetype/


They are mostly "DejaVu" and "Liberation" fonts but there are others
listed as well.

I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.





   I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was

   appalled at the paucity of fonts. "Liberation" is ugly! You need
to
find a
good
set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for
example,
Times-Roman.  And most of the odd-ball ones that you might use
once in your life-time. I copied the entire fonts directory from PCLOS
and
replaced the one in Mint. But I think you can get True-Type from
Microsoft, free. Not sure how you do that--Google's your friend.

--doug




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