Re: [libreoffice-users] record changes weakness compared to m$

Unfortunately, where I work, this feature is used heavily ( and yest it is
really, really annoying) but is considered a must have for our environment.

Bobby Kneisel
Owner
KTech Solutions
bobby.kneisel@ktechsolutionsllc.com
614.398.0999


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/19/2012 04:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> > Hi :)
> > imo both, or all 3.
> >
> > A few people that i share documents with have been persuaded into
> > installing or already have OpenOffice or LO.  I have installed LO on all
> > the machines at work.  People generally remain MS users but every once in a
> > while they find documents open in LO.
> >
> > My own documents on the office network are in ODF and when i get time to
> > update internal documents i try to switch them to ODF if there is time and
> > if the documents are likely to be used again soon.  It's usually best done
> > by starting a fresh document and copy&pasting unformattted text in and then
> > reformatting.  People often make a hopeless mess and do weird things quite
> > erratically.  A fresh start helps normalise them and since they are done on
> > LO less craziness jumps in randomly.
> >
> > When i need to share with people outside the office i use "Save As ..."
> > to create a "98/2000/Xp" (= .doc) and if i have time i  create a Pdf for
> > them.  It doesn't take long and often impresses people.  If they need a
> > printable version i make the Pdf with lossless compression.
> >
> > The "track changes" thing is far too advanced for most office workers i
> > know of.  When i tried to get people into it they complained that all the
> > red crossings out and different colours was all toooo confusing.
> I have never seen anyone use this feature in MSO (or LO). IMHO most people
> find the it confusing or annoying. What seemed to work best for most
> collaborative documents was to have one person be responsible for final
> edits after getting input from all the others and the other participants be
> responsible for a section of the document.
>
>
> > Generally i think bug-reports are worked on to make LO better in it's own
> > right but that a LOT of effort goes into trying to pander to the needs of
> > MS users that people share with.  Hopefully as LO usage continues to
> > increase exponentially  it continues to become easier to share ODFs.  Then
> > the need to try to follow MS's whims will decrease naturally.
> >
> > I still think it's more important to get LO out there first, or AOO or
> > any other program that uses ODF as it's native format.  ODF uptake is 2nd,
> > for me.  It seems to be working well  that way, for me.
> >
> > It would be interesting to hear other people's thoughts or experiences.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ______________________________**__
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> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 8:26
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] record changes weakness compared to m$
> > >
> > > Readers,
> > >
> > > Have done a bug report on both LO and AOO, about the 'changes' feature
> > > of the word processor. (It's excellent that there are multiple
> > > products available to produce ODF files, but I digress). There are
> > > many bugs concerning this feature, which is surprising.
> > >
> > > In the typical collaborative environment, the superior functionality
> > > of m$ "track changes" makes the possibility to use LO unrealistic.
> > >
> > > Suppose LO is used to create an original odt document (the preferred
> > > option of course). When that file is distributed to m$ users, the
> > > functionality of 'changes' in LO will probably be considered to be
> > > weak and people will be justified to ask: "please send an m$ word
> > > document".
> > >
> > > What is the experience of others distributing odt documents to m$ users?
> > >
> > > Alternatively, the "realpolitik" option is to use LO to create an m$
> > > word document, but as commented before, such an option merely
> > > perpetuates the proliferation of m$ at the direct cost to odf.
> > >
> > > Which leads to the next question: is the priority to improve the
> > > feature of LO such that 'changes' in odt format is superior to 'track
> > > changes' in m$ and that when odt documents are distributed, m$ users
> > > can perform simple tasks such as recording document changes?
> > >
> > > Or is the priority for LO to be compatible with m$, so that m$ word
> > > continues to be the de facto standard?
> > >
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