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I have concerns about the YouTube HowTos because sound recording is often not done very good and it takes to much time to watch the movies. Screen clippings and text is much faster to be used.

On 2012-11-22 04:54, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I have only just thought of using links or QR codes to point people to YouTube HowTos or proper 
documentation for things that might be a paragraph or more.
Regards from
Tom :)

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <>
To: Tom Davies <>
Cc: "" <>
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 15:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

In the end, having a "quick study guide" or "cheat sheet" listed on one
of the Wiki pages will be needed.  If I was to create one or be part of
a project that does it as a group, I would insist that it be linked
there for anyone to get freely and easily.

The Wiki pages are easy for a list or table of things, but for a
document that looks like a "normal" reference guide[s] I have seen it
does not work well to deal with that type of formatting.

YES, we could use a place for people to list all of the "quick
reference" or quick explanation on how to do things in LO.  I would love
to see someone compile a list of shortcuts and menu options to setup and
do various tasks that beginning users would want to know.

As I said before, I do not use much of the potential abilities of any of
the modules of LO.  I just use what I need and learn what I do not know
but need to do.  I no longer spend hours and hours learning all of the
ins and outs of a package like I use to do in the 90's and early 00's.

We will need to have "screen clips" of all of the menu options and such
that would help the users.  Not all of the Tools>Options sub-menus will
be needed to be used by a beginner to Writer or Calc.  I would start
with all the things I think new users would need to know for Writer and
general setup.  Then a separate quick guide/sheet for Calc can be done.
I have not see any single laminated guide for the entire MSO.  They are
divided up into the different modules [Word, Excel, etc.].  That is what
we should do as well.

I think a 3 double-sided laminated panels are the normal size of these
quick guides, of so I have seen in the past.  Having 6 letter size pages
of columns and text blocks organized into different categories can be
hard to do, or easy to do, depending on the person and what he/she has
to work with.  If I had a list of all the needed things to be placed on
those panels, it would be a lot easier.

As I stated, it will be easier to see what a professional company has on
their Word 2010 guide and then start gathering the needed items for a
Writer guide.  I like to see a lot of screen-clips to show new users
where all of the option are that they might want to use.  Then add the
shortcuts and brief descriptions on how to do some of the things they
might want to do.

On 11/21/2012 08:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
How about someone creating a page on the official wiki?  Then anyone can add to it?  Charles have 
you done a wiki-page before?  If not i might be able to start a new page for it but only in a few 
days time, not right-away.  It's not hugely tough to figure out tbh and you can give it a go 
because i might well be able to fix it without losing data or work if you are not completely happy 
with the 1st attempt.

I've lost track of what people are thinking of.
*  If it's quick little things, along the lines of Ctrl P for printing in MSO and something else in 
LO (and something else again in LO on Macs).  Errr, i think that's a bad example because it's about 
the same in all.

*  If it's larger things, such as little paragraphs or even entire pages then i have a feeling it 
might be possible to get rough drafts that are already done.  The docs team seem to have access to 
something for each new branch as it arrives that they then make slightly more people-friendly.

Regards from
Tom :)

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <>
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012, 12:52
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart

I am not the best person to create a final chart/guide/sheet.  Due to the 3 strokes, my 
communication skills were affected so I do not have an easy time trying to get the correct/proper 
wording out - halk the times I need to do so.

I will look into what is being done and see what can be done to make one for LO.  I will see about 
an outline of what is to be gathered and some basic ideas of what needs to be included.  BUT, I do 
not want to be the guy to do the work all by his lonesome.  I have too many projects in the past 
where I started with a group and ended up doing the work for the bosses all by myself.  I may be 
able to do something I would like to see, but I am really eclectic about some things.

Also, it will be a few weeks before I can devote any real time to such a project.  I have a lot of things 
going on that needs to be done "yesterday" on my to-do list.  When they are caught up and such, I 
will look into the project.

As I stated, I will look into buying a laminated guide in a week or two and see what that company does.  I 
will be weeks before I get the sheet on my hands.  If there are any GOOD freely downloadable guides/sheets 
out there, please forward their URLs to me at my "" address.  That way I 
will have those emails outside my LO list folders and easily dealt with.

On 11/20/2012 03:11 PM, charles meyer wrote:

That would be greatly appreciated.

I'm sure many on this list would discover new features/functions (or
easier ways to do them) and I and other newbies would be grateful for
a quick guide to Writer and even Calc down the road.

How can we all help you?

Perhaps, if we could share the functions we use most often in Libre
Writer and how we do them we could all help contribute to the quick
start guide or short FAQ?

Right now, I'd appreciate it if anyone can please share how to do the
following in Writer?

1. Suppress header on the first page of a text document
2. Keep a dotted line across a page without it automatically becoming
a solid line
3. Change line spacing - context menu - where’s that?
4. Suppressing hyperlinks
5. Indents  - where and how to change
6. Turn on/off Fast Save - so document doesn't leave personal info in a document
7. Turn on/off the Track Changes tool
8. Strike-through a word or sentence - context menu again?
9. Eliminating hard returns
10. Print file list of file names in a sub-directory

Then, we could add these 10 items to the Libre Writer Quick Start Guide!!

Thanks so much,


      Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison
      From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <
      Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:54:22 -0500


      Maybe, after this coming holiday, I will look into ordering one of
the Word or MSO laminated "quick study guides" from BarChart, Inc. They did a great job with the Medical and
Mathematics guides I bought back in 2000-2002.  I bought the Windows
98 guides for my wife, and they were good for her.  So It would be
interesting to see what the "professional" guide making company does
for Word or MSO.

I would love to find a Word study guide sheet - download for free -
but I have not seen any.  I have not really looked for any either,

To be honest, if we have some guides to look at, then we may have some
ideas on what might be useful to have in a quick study guide or quick
reference guide.

Well, after the current holiday, I will look more into this topic.
Maybe I will be able to start something in December.

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