Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

The key was to find the core fonts package first.

Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation 
of packages, but you need to know what those packages are.

Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can 
search for the packages and install them from there without needing to 
get the "spelling" of the package correct.  Some people, like me, can 
have problems typing at times.  My fingers do not always work correctly 
and I rely on my spell checker to catch things.  So with a package 
manager or software center, you do no need to worry about typing in a 
command in the terminal correctly.

Then there are the differences with the desktop environments.  For 12.04 
I have used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments.  I prefer 
MATE.  IT works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, 
better than the options in GNOME 3.

So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the 
"small core" of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user 
to decide what if the easiest way to install it.  When I search for a 
package, it is easier for me to install it with the package manager or 
the software center, instead of using that info and type the proper 
commands in the terminal.

IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web 
page or an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal 
option.  cut/paste was how I "typed in" the commands to install MATE on 
my 12.04 laptop.

This link that was in a posting
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
was listed as the core fonts for the web.

This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web

This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems.
http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts

So that means that there many be more "core fonts" that MS Win7 uses 
that the user might want to install.

He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all 
of the fonts he had in his font folder.  Well as far as I an thinking, 
it is really easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is 
place them in a folder, highlight them like you we going to copy them to 
another folder, then just do a right-click and open them with the 
default font viewer.  Then just click on the "install" button for each 
font.  I is an easy way to get them installed properly in the .fonts 
hidden folder.  At least it is the easiest way I found.

The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that 
he/she needs for the work he/she need to do.

As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very 
similar to the paid ones of a specific name.  All you have to do is 
look.  BUT, if that person is required to work with a specific font for 
an employer, or other person of authority, then they will have to see if 
they have those fonts somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux 
work instead of Windows work.

When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with 
it, I copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them 
when I have Ubuntu installed.  That way, I use the fonts that came with 
the computer.  Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts 
installed, then those fonts can stay installed on the system no matter 
what the OS changes to.



On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:
>
> sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
>
> and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:
>
> sudo apt-get install synaptic
>
> but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the exactly right name 
> already.  Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of 
> the thing.  It searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague with searches.  
> Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore all the packages starting with "lib..." 
> so just scroll through them fast).
>
> The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty much identical across 
> all the different distros although some families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get.  I think 
> those alternatives use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for 
> example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32
>
> 2012/7/22 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>:
> > Hi :)
> > There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i think it's Ubuntu so 
> > it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
> 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
> not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
> Synaptic pre-installed.
>
> Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
> and I think a few fonts were missing as well.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
>
> > --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04
> >
> > 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope <antisocky@myopera.com>:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
> > > After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
> > > on what they would consider to be core fonts.
> > > I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
> > > so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
> > > single one of them!
> > The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
> > the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
> > terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
> > Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:
> >
> > sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer
> >
> > The package contains:
> > Andale
> > Arial Black
> > Arial
> > Comic Sans
> > Courier New
> > Georgia
> > Impact
> > Times New Roman
> > Trebuchet
> > Verdana
> > Webdings
> >
> > If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
> > recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
> > fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
> > Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
> > so on.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> > ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
> >
> >
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> > >
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