Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font Problems on OS X

On 06/07/2012 06:06 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I don't think we have a "Public Domain" in the UK (queue nice pics of the Queen waving) and i 
> don't think we have "fair use" either.  We never quite got around to overthrowing our monarchy 
> and still have an annual celebration of one of the failures where put a guy on a big bonfire.  
> Not a real guy, of course, more like a scarecrow or like a life-sized wickerman (not a giant 
> one).  
> Regards from
> Tom :)  
There are treaties about copyrights and patents. AFAIK copyrights will
expire in all countries and after they expire anyone can use the work
without asking permission. In US law this is entering the public domain.
How long the copyright last and if it is renewable will be in the
national statutes. I would expect any copyright on the original Oliver
Twist or War of the Worlds has expired.

Fair Use is a doctrine in US law that allows one to use a work (in whole
or part) without permission under specific conditions such as for
parody, brief quotation. I do not know if other countries have a similar
doctrine.
> --- On Thu, 7/6/12, Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font Problems on OS X
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 7 June, 2012, 17:42
>
> On 06/07/2012 11:48 AM, Andy Theuninck wrote:
> > I'm certainly not a lawyer or anything, but I don't think abandonware
> > automatically enters public domain. The copyright remains valid even
> > if the company holding it has no assets. That's pretty well
> > established with software. I doubt it would be different with fonts.
> Not a lawyer also but for a work (any work) to enter public domain one
> two events must occur:
>
> 1. The statutory copyright period must end, including any renewals
> applied for and granted.
> 2. The owner of the copyright places the work in public domain.
>
> Work is a legal term including any writing, photograph, software, image,
> film, song, recording, etc. Abandonware is work that likely still has
> enforceable copyright but either the original owner (a company) is out
> of business or the ownership can not be determined.
>
> Only the copyright owner can release a work under Creative Commons or
> similar license.
>
> I do not if "Fair Use" would allow an owner of a copy to convert the
> file format for personal use only.
>
> Note under current US copyright law the copyright exists once the work
> is "finished" and registration with the US government though highly
> recommended is optional.
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > Quick!  Re-licence the legacy fonts under Creative Coomons copyleft to prevent some other 
> > > company being far less honest than you are being.  I take it a company could easily and safely 
> > > copyright those fonts and then charge people for using them?  Some companies put quite a lot of 
> > > effort into profiting off other people's work in this way.
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/6/12, Andy Theuninck <gohanman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Andy Theuninck <gohanman@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font Problems on OS X
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Date: Thursday, 7 June, 2012, 15:19
> > >
> > > > Is there any advantage to using Type-1 fonts over the other two formats,
> > > > with OSX?
> > > >
> > > > It there a way to replace the "problem" Type-1 fonts with TTF or OTF, or use
> > > > a 99.9% similar font as a replacement font?
> > > There's no advantage. The main catch is the company I licensed the
> > > fonts from no longer exist, and my license agreement doesn't permit
> > > converting them. Obviously the odds of getting sued are pretty much
> > > zero, but in principle I try to abide by agreements.
> > >
> > > I can use NeoOffice for anything that needs that font; it's just kind
> > > of a pain since LO is a better program otherwise.
> > >
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