Re: The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (was RE: [libreoffice-users] Documentation URL)

      The commentary below about copyright law seems to be tragically 
accurate.  A careful analysis of US and international copyright law is 
available in Lawrence Lessig (2004) Free Culture (available under a 
Creative Commons license;  see the Wikipedia article about that book).  
Spencer Graves


On 3/17/2012 11:08 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> This is probably not a good place to discuss the copyright status of an existing work.
>
>   It seems to me that the only matters to address here are the technical question concerning how to 
> get chapters starting with the text pages lined up as the OP wants.  I am surprised that it 
> requires a Master Document to accomplish, though.
>
>   - Dennis
>
> MORE THAN YOU MIGHT CARE TO KNOW:
>
> "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" was copyright in 1899 by L. Frank Baum and W. W. Denslow (the 
> illustrator).  It was published in 1900.  The original is no longer under US copyright (that is, it has 
> entered the public domain). You can still purchase the book.  I did that recently, in fact.  I first 
> downloaded a free Kindle version, but it didn't have the illustrations.
>
> There are versions of the book that have content still in copyright.  This includes versions that 
> have newer illustrations and also books that have added content about the history of the book, etc.
>
> For example, the book I purchased recently has the an Afterword that is copyright 1987.  While that notice at the front 
> of the book is accompanied by boilerplate claiming "No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner 
> whatsoever ... " it can't apply to content that is not subject to the 1987 copyright.  (It happens that the scene 
> I was looking for, and the dialog that goes with it, "... ignore the man behind the curtain," is specific to 
> the motion picture, so I didn't find what I was looking for.)
>
> There is no way of knowing, without further information, what the copyright status of the bilingual 
> plaintext is, what the rules are in the jurisdiction where that was produced/is-used, and whether 
> or not the illustrations being added are subject to someone's copyright.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 06:52
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Documentation URL
>
> Hi :)
> At a guess "The Wizard of Oz" is copyrighted by some fairly hefty people that wouldn't like to see copies of 
> the story floating around unless they got paid for each copy!  I'm not even sure they would accept a single 
> "private use" copy.  So, i think this list has to officially assume that you were just using that name as an 
> example to give us a rough idea of the sort of size project you are dealing with ;)
>
> Many of us are far more familiar with copyleft agreements that aim  to help people share and spread 
> ideas and knowledge rather than to try to contain and cage it to prevent people from learning 
> things.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Sat, 17/3/12, Dan Lewis<elderdanlewis@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> From: Dan Lewis<elderdanlewis@gmail.com>
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Documentation URL
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Saturday, 17 March, 2012, 13:16
>
> On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:41 +0700, John Francis Lee wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've found a bilingual plain text copy of Wizard of Oz and have set up
> > the individual chapters, right page/left page with chapter headings. I
> > found the illustrations as well and will print them separately in color
> > and just insert them as right pages.
> >
> > But how do I put all the individual chapters together to make the book?
> >
> > All the chapters begin with a right hand page. I thought I could just
> > insert each chapter, add a blank left page if need be... although I
> > thought LibreOffice might be smart enough to put a left page betwen two
> > right pages... until I was finished.
> >
> > If I insert the files into a new file LibreOffice gets stupid and tries
> > to use the style settings from Chapter 1 for the whole book... it looks
> > like.
> >
> > I tried inserting the chapters as so-called sections, but LibreOffice
> > got stupid again and used its own idea of style to format the thing.
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
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> > John Francis Lee
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> > Thailand
>       What you need to do is use Master Documents. The Writer Guide
> contains a chapter on this topic. Link to this guide below:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications.
>       (FYI: The Writer Guide was written in chapters which were then
> combined using Master Documents.)


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