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Hi :)
Errr, when you have to share files with other people it is best to send them a pdf of the file so 
they see the way it should look.
File - "Export as Pdf"
works for me.  

Also when you first get a document from someone else it's a good idea to 
File - "Save As ... "
and change the format to an OpenDocument Format such as Odt (for a 'text' document as used by 
"Writer") or an Ods for spreadsheet (Calc) or an odg for graphics (Draw).  

Keep saving your changes to the Odt but when you are ready to send it back to the MS Office users 
use "Save As .. " again to make a copy in .Doc  NOT .DocX  I think the format is listed as "MS Word 
(97/2000/Xp)".  The DocX introduced in MS Office 2007 and used in 2010 is difficult for most other 
people, such as people using older versions of MS Office, so using it forces people into buying the 
newer versions of MS Office

Often when Pdfs are used on websites and sometimes even in emails people give a link to the Adobe 
website so that the person trying to open the pdf can download and hopefully install Adobe Reader 
and they make a fuss about it being free (in cost).

The same could be done with Odts and has sometimes met with success.  At my workplace all the 
machines now have LibreOffice installed although people generally keep using MS Word.  

One advantage of LibreOffice is that it handles pictures and images more flexibly.  You can anchor 
to a page or to a paragraph (so that when the paragraph moves the picture moves with it) or quite a 
few other options.  MS Office can only handle some of them.  Also the wrap options allow text to 
flow around the image or over the top so that the image is in the background.  Again MS Office only 
supports some of the options.  Also in LibreOffice you can move the picture around the document 
fairly freely but MS Office often restricts movement to up&down or some other limited option.  So, 
at work we use LibreOffice for our Newsletter because there are a lot of pictures in it.  

So when sharing with other people 
1. try to save documents in the native ODF format, such as Odt but then re-save as Doc to send on 
to them and also send them a pdf
2. suggest they install LibreOffice alongside their MS Office in the same way they have Adobe 
Reader already.  LibreOffice is tiny and very light-weight.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Thu, 15/3/12, Wanda Moore <> wrote:

From: Wanda Moore <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with LibreOffice-text won't stay put
Date: Thursday, 15 March, 2012, 7:04

Thank you so much!   I love it that I finally found out how to ask a
question!   Most other sites don't respond at all.

I will try the "anchor to page".   I didn't understand that at first.   I
still don't know what the other anchors do.   And no, I can't do anything
inside the image I paste - text or not.   But sometimes all I can do is use
Grab as "copy" doesn't work on PDFs.

I really like Open Source programs.   And I love LibreOffice.   Well, now
that my problems are being solved!

Thanks again!

Wanda Moore

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Steve Edmonds

On 2012-03-15 14:13, Wanda Moore wrote:

I have scoured the site to find where I can ask a question, but I couldn't
find it.  ( I tried the mailing list, but I got about 100 emails within a
couple days, and all repeating over and over. )

I have Mac OS X and have been trying to use LibreOffice for a year at
least.  I can't find out why the documents keep changing on me.  I "save"
everything I do, but when I come back to it, it is all mixed up.  I home
school and use this program every day.  I have spent hours redoing page
after page and it will still mess up.  Some text will disappear.  I have
downloaded PDF files and tried to copy/paste exercises for my kids, but
even though it is available for us to do that, it will not stay put on the

I couldn't find any trouble shooting help, either, and I had a hard time
understanding the instructions.  The language is too technical and not
clear to me.

I do a lot of copying and pasting using different methods, but that
change anything.  Even if I just highlight a portion of text and click
"copy" and then "paste" it into a LO document, it will move.  I also use a
"Grab" addon tool and that moves around, too.

I have always used a .doc format, but I don't know what is best anymore.
didn't have problems like this with Linux.  Please help me with this
problem.  No one I know even uses this program so I have no one else to

Thank you so much in advance for any help you can give me!

Wanda Moore

With the Grab tool it grabs a screen image, like Ksnapshot or the windows
snip tool, so you are probably pasting an image into your document. These
can move around and you need to look at the Anchor and Wrap
characteristics. You may find that anchor to page and no wrap suit your

Copying from a PDF can be as an image or as text. Can you edit the text
you copy from the PDF. If not it is probably an image and you should treat
it as for Grab above.


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