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Hello everybody – and especially Dan Lewis.
I happened to read this thread about a database vs. spreadsheet. First of all I will thank Dan for him mentioning the “Getting Started Guide/Getting Started with Base/chapter 8"! I cannot understand how I could have missed it when I for some time have been looking for info about Base (LibreO & OOo).
It is an excellent briefing into how to build up a database using Base.

I think that you LibreO-guys should take a look at the layout where and how you introduce Base, how to get the “Getting started with Base” more visible – sort of nearer her/him who (like me) is looking for a really handy database tool. A week ago I asked your community “how get LibreO-Base working”. That is now OK (I found the JRE-file ”jxpiinstall.exe” and installed it before installing LO). Your Andreas then said that LO-Base is a front-end application, not a database. I’m not arguing but for an ordinary database consumer like me the front-end and the background database engine together mean one total database. After reading Dan’s “Chapter 8” I realized that LO-Base is The solution when a database of medium size/complexity is needed, either using the embedded HSQLDB or connecting to an external “real” database engine (e.g. MySQL or SQLite). Very much like MSAccess but free – no costs. After working some 10 years ago quite a lot with MSAccess I am a great fan of databases. Whenever I can I recommend to people not to limit to spreadsheets but build relational databases especially for their organizations but also at home. One of the great benefits compared with a spreadsheet is that you write input data only once thus minimizing both writing and writing errors - and then using the same data multiple times in different kind of reports. Another is that when a nspreadsheet is flat a (relational) database can handle data multi-dimensional which gives you the possibility to mix/combine data and get the most interesting analyzing results.
All the best
Pertti Rönnberg

On 7.2.2012 14:24, e-letter wrote:
On 06/02/2012, Dan Lewis<>  wrote:
       Or maybe the failure is the refusal to understand the purpose for
each part of a database. Tables and forms are for adding, modifying, and
deleting data. Queries and reports are for data output. If you want to
enter data, you use a table or form. If you want to manipulate data, you
use queries. (With Report Builder, you can also manipulate data in a
Shouldn't we as users contribute to encouraging other users to always
think: what is the most appropriate use for the job? How many
questions posted are the result of making a mistake to use a
spreadsheet when a database is more appropriate?

      I wonder how many people who use LO have read chapter 8 of the
Getting Started Gude, "Getting Started with Base"? I know that I have
very seldom seen a comment about its contents. (I wrote it and am
presently updating it. I'm also working on the Base Guide in its

Somebody mentioned tutorials about open office base; very good
information. Maybe the authors responsible for calc should add more
conceptual advice about whether certain tasks are best performed in
base, not calc.

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