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On 16/01/2012 at 14:41, Pedro <> wrote:

You always could write the header/footer "on the margins" (both in LO and
in MS Word). You just need to slide the ruler limiters to the grey part ;)

Or change indentation before text in header paragraph style (I prefer to do 
everything with styles, so sliding ruler is not an option for me).

It is so simple, and I have never actually though about it. Thanks about
a tip.

It is a GOOD thing that LO allows this, Miroslaw. If you notice most books,
the Header and Footer (in particular page numbers) are outside the text
margins ;)

Well, not really. Polish typographic rules defines "column" as potentially 
printed area of page (so it is basically page size minus margins). Page 
numbers (called "pagina") should be at top or bottom part of page. Pagina on 
top should be placed *below* top margin, while pagina on bottom should be 
placed *on* bottom margin (LO places footer above margin, so you have to make 
bottom margin smaller, so margin plus footer would equal preferred margin 
size). No text should be placed on left or right margins. Most books in Poland 
have page numbers inside text margins (with exception for bottom pagina, which 
is on bottom margin).

Of course there are many exceptions (photo albums, encyclopedias etc.). 
Moreover, typography is more like set of recommendations than strict rules. 
But general principle is that no text should be outside main text margins 
(outside column, in polish meaning of that word).

As far as I know, English-American typography is really different than European 
(most of all, German, on which Polish is modeled on), so your experience may 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski

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