Re: [libreoffice-users] Question Concerning your product

Hi :)
Fair point.  

I think officially we should recommend the official site and the repositories of the various 
Gnu&Linux distros but as you point out that doesn't mean we need to tarnish the reputation of other 
sources without knowing more about them.  

People should be treated as innocent until proven guilty rather than the other way around.  (But of 
course play it safe even from official places)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 22/12/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com> wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question Concerning your product
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 December, 2011, 16:15


What I do not like is when people tell others that if the files do not come from their source, then 
they must [or implied that way] have something "nasty" hidden inside.

There are many places where you can find "clean" copies of LibreOffice.  There are many people out 
there who are doing their best to create different ways to distribute LibreOffice to their region 
of the world.  I am just one of them.

Over the years to come, there will be many new ways for people to get the latest and greatest 
open-source software.  These ways may exist now, or are yet to be developed.  One way would be from 
magazine DVDs or other offers like that.  Then there will be cloud systems that are offering LO for 
use.  All these new ways to get access to LO will not be through the current "Official LibreOffice 
website".   So if you have the view that if you do not get it from the LO site, for windows, and 
the repositories for Linux, are we to just tell people that they should not use all these new ways 
to get or use LO since they are not from either of his/hers "approved" sources?

Sure, some places I would not want to download from.  I use WOT [Web of Trust] Google filter on my 
browser to help stay away from those sites.  As always, you should run any downloads through your 
security software to make sure that there is no nasties within them.  But, I do not say that you 
have to avoid going to other sites or distribution methods if you want to get unmodified copies of 
LibreOffice.

On 12/22/2011 10:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> True that the code is unmodified in the North American Dvd project (and other Dvd projects).  
> Typically, as i understand it, they tend to bundle a bunch of useful programs and useful extras 
> (better  dictionaries, artwork, templates, Extensions etc) that people can choose to use (or not 
> use) in addition to the main program supplied in/on the Dvd. 
> Personally i think all those Dvd projects should be hosted on TDF and LibreOffice servers in 
> addition to other places if possible.  While they aren't, there is an element of suspicion for 
> people that are not familiar with the personalities involved.  Those of us that do know you have 
> good reason to trust you.  My understanding is that the Dvd projects are there mainly for people 
> to make Dvds in bulk in order to sell or distribute at events and such rather than being for the 
> general public. Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 22/12/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>  wrote:
>
> From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question Concerning your product
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 22 December, 2011, 15:20
>
> On 12/22/2011 03:06 AM, doug wrote:
> > On 12/21/2011 08:08 PM, Mike Watson wrote:
> > > I am considering downloading your product to avoid having to buy Microsoft Office.  But I have 
> > > a question about your product.  On your Features page you said that the LGPL public license 
> > > could be hacked by the user.  What does that mean?  Does it mean that anyone can hack it?  
> > > Please reply whenever you can. Thank you for your time.
> > I believe that what you're seeing is the fact that LO is "open source," which means that the 
> > code is
> > available to anyone who wants it, and therefore can be modified--"hacked," if you will--by anyone
> > sufficiently savvy to do so.  It does NOT mean that the program you download and install in your
> > system has been modified or hacked, so long as you get it thru the LibreOffice website or thru 
> > your
> > Linux distribution's repository.  But if someone wants to put in some extra feature, and is smart
> > enough to do so, he can, unlike with the Microsoft product, whose code is kept highly secret.
> > HTH--doug
> I take it you do not think that the version[s] of LibreOffice on the 
> LibreOffice-NA.US<http://libreoffice-na.us/>  site [and other project sites] are an unmodified 
> versions of LO?
>
> These DVD projects, like the -NA.us one, do not modify LO, but they present LO towards a specific 
> community group.  There are several projects out there, some with links on the LO web pages.  
> They do not have the range of install files that LO's "official" site has, but that does not mean 
> they are "hacks" of LO.
>
> LibreOffice-NA.US<http://libreoffice-na.us/>, has produced a DVD versions for distribution of LO 
> and all the extras that a user might want with their LO install.  Documentation, dictionaries and 
> other extensions, templates, artwork, etc., etc., all in one place or on the DVD media so the 
> user does not have to go searching different places for them.  Some of the extras are not 
> conveniently accessible on the LO web pages for the users to find, since they are not found on 
> LO's sites.
>
> There are other projects in other languages, for DVD and other access to LO's files.  They may or 
> may not have their project "officially" listed on one of LO's web pages.  I know for a fact that 
> there is a guy in Malta that is creating a distribution DVD for his native language, which is not 
> listed in the LO pages.
>
> SO, please do not imply that if you get your copy of LO from places other than LO's download page 
> or the Linux repository, it would be an unofficially modified version of LO.  That is not true 
> for all cases.  Many people are just presenting LO differently in a different way, without 
> modifying the install files.
>
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