Re: [libreoffice-users] New design

With Ubuntu 11.10, it looks like you do not have a choice to go back to 
the GNOME 2.32[?] desktop like Ubuntu 11.04 did.

I just do not want us to have a menu system that is too different.  It 
we can switch between classic and the new design, that would be great, 
but the classic design needs to be the default.  Then there must be an 
easy way to switch between menu designs.

We cannot afford to give our users a reason to dump us.  Menu redesign 
is one issue that bugs users a great deal.  If they are use to finding 
their options in one place and they are use to going to that place in 
one way, having them relearn how to find options and where they are 
located will make users not want to use LO.  We all hate when things 
change.  I hate to relearn how to do the tasks I use to do one way when 
it is not that way anymore.

I chose to go from Windows to Linux, so things change.  Yet, I would not 
have that choice if LO changes their menu structure.  I like it the way 
it is now.



On 11/28/2011 10:23 AM, Quinn Heagy wrote:
> I think a good way would be to have the user able to change between a
> "classic" and a "new" look.
>
> Also, with Windows 8 - it looks pretty much the same as Windows 7 for a
> normal desktop.  It has the new look for touch enabled computers, but they
> can still use the old look.
>
> If a user needs to get some work done in a good amount of time, then they
> can use the classic look, and just mess around with the new look when they
> have free time.  They could then choose whichever look they wanted to use.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:16 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
> webmaster@krackedpress.com>  wrote:
>
> > The big thing we need to learn from current desktop design changes, is the
> > fact that if the redesigns are too radical or too much different from what
> > users are use to, then it will "turn users away" from our product.
> >
> > The change from MSO's old menu design to the new one is something that
> > caused users issues and was a concern for IT departments to be able to
> > handle the tech calls asking for help finding where all their "normal menus
> > went to".  If LO changes too much from the "traditional" look, then we will
> > have the same problem.  If there is a change in menu look and feel, then it
> > needs to be a slow one.  People are dumping Ubuntu to go to Mint, due to
> > Unity's change of the way their "classic" desktop was used.  IT was too
> > radical of a change for many users.  MS is going to have the same issue
> > with the way Win 8 is designed.
> >
> > We must not change too much too soon.
> >
> > Our users will not want to have to relearn how to use LO.  I will not like
> > to relearn how to use LO.
> >
> > One of our early selling points for OOo and LO over MSO 2007, was the fact
> > that MSO changed the way their menus were used.  We had a more classic menu
> > system that was easier to use than MSO 2007.  We were the easier package[s]
> > to use.  That was what got some of my users to switch to OOo back then.
> >   They did not like the change that MSO had for their menus and other look
> > and feel issues.
> >
> > We do not want to become the same thing.  We do not want LO users go to
> > back to OOo because we changed the look and feel of LO where it is no
> > longer easy to use.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/28/2011 09:35 AM, Quinn Heagy wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/**2011/11/citrus-a-libreoffice-**
> > > interface-for-today/<http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/citrus-a-libreoffice-interface-for-today/>
> > > That's the post that I was talking about.
> > >
> > > On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:26 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
> > > webmaster@**krackedpress.com<webmaster@krackedpress.com>>   wrote:
> > >
> > >   What is "OMGUbuntu!"?
> > > > I know that there were some code changes to make LibreOffice work better
> > > > with the Unity desktop that Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 has as its default
> > > > desktop.  GNOME 3.x is moving towards the way Unity looks, according to
> > > > what I have read, as well.
> > > >
> > > > So could "Citrus" be a part of that new look and feel that Unity desktop
> > > > and Win 8 is going to?  I hate Unity, and Win 8's desktop seems to be a bad
> > > > idea that will be a nightmare for Windows users to relearn.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/28/2011 09:03 AM, Quinn Heagy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I noticed that the heading on OMGUbuntu! was a new design idea for
> > > > > LibreOffice called Citrus. It mentioned the mailing list, so I signed up.
> > > > > If anyone could give me more info on when and if this new design is going
> > > > > to be implemented, I'd be thankful.
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