RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Encrypted MSO files (docx,xlsx) in Libo

I noticed that Haworth left of the part after the "may be covered ... "?

Is it not good to first check to see if the specification is indeed covered or not?

Here is the full text:

"However, a given Open Specification may be covered by Microsoft's Open Specification Promise 
(available here: http://www.microsoft.com/interop/osp) or the Community Promise (available here: 
http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx). If you would prefer a written license, or if the 
technologies described in the Open Specifications are not covered by the Open Specifications 
Promise or Community Promise, as applicable, patent licenses are available by contacting 
iplg@microsoft.com."

If you go to 
<http://www.microsoft.com/openspecifications/en/us/programs/osp/office-file-formats/default.aspx> 
which lists "Other Office File Formats" under the Open Specification Promise, you will see that 
indeed, "[MS-OFFCRYPTO]: Office Document Cryptography Structure Specification" is covered by the 
Microsoft Open Specification Promise. 

If you go to 
<http://www.microsoft.com/openspecifications/en/us/programs/community-promise/default.aspx> you 
will find that MS-OFFCRYPTO is not listed as a Covered Specification under the Microsoft Community 
Promise.

So what is available is the irrevocable promise under the Open Specification Promise at 
<http://www.microsoft.com/openspecifications/en/us/programs/osp/default.aspx>.

That's the same promise that applies to [MS-DOC], [MS-XLS], [MS-PPT], [MS-DOCX], [MS-PPTX], 
[MS-PST](Outlook!), [MS-XLSX], [RTF] and more.

So until the US Congress decides to abandon the power to legislate patents and copyrights 
stipulated in the US Constitution, this is pretty much as good as it gets short of MSFT not having 
obtained any patents in the first place (whether or not any apply to items under the Open 
Specification Promise).

 - Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: planas [mailto:jslozier@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 22:03
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Encrypted MSO files (docx,xlsx) in Libo

On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 21:51 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: 

> On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 09:27 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> > Really? I see nothing hidden here:
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc313071%28v=office.12%29.aspx
> > <http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/4/8/24862317-78F0-4C4B-B355-C7B2C1D997DB/%5BMS-OFFCRYPTO%5D.pdf>
>
> I think the interesting bit is the following:
>
> "Microsoft has patents that may cover your implementations of the
> technologies described in the Open Specifications. Neither this notice
> nor Microsoft's delivery of the documentation grants any licenses under
> those or any other Microsoft patents. However, a given Open
> Specification may be covered ..."
>
> The emphasis, I feel, is on the word "may".
[ ... ]


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