RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: JRE older installs - Windows - now online- no need for Oracle account

I don't believe he is using TDF servers.  Notice that the domain being used is libreoffice-na.us 
and that is about as far from TDF as you can get and still have "libreoffice" in the name.  (TDF 
may have objections of its own, of course.)

I share your concern about the mirror of older JRE versions being allowed by Oracle.  Personally, I 
never obtain downloads of anything so fundamental from anywhere but the authentic source.  The 
added risk is hardly compensation for avoiding registration.  I also fail to see what the downside 
risk of registration is.  

That these files are being offered by direct linking to the installer .exe files is also scary.

But that's just me.

 - Dennis

 
-----Original Message-----
From: David H. Lipman [mailto:DLipman@Verizon.Net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 16:51
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: JRE older installs - Windows - now online- no need for Oracle 
account

From: "webmaster for Kracked Press Productions" <webmaster@krackedpress.com>

> On 09/01/2011 02:11 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> > From: "webmaster for Kracked Press Productions"<webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> >
> > > As I stated in a different thread, to get the older version of Java Runtime Engine, 
> > > you
> > > have to sign up for an Oracle users account - with a valid email address for
> > > verification.
> > >
> > > For you Windows users, I have now posted a few of those earlier JREs online.
> > >
> > > At the bottom of the "default English" install page for the NA-DVD, I have listed 6u20
> > > through 6u23.  Tom stated that 6u23 was a slow version, so decided to give you a 
> > > choice.
> > > He told me he uses 6u21 and it works well for him.
> > >
> > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English/install.html
> > >
> > > For the direct links, use the following:
> > >
> > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English/jre/jre-6u23-windows-i586.exe
> > >
> > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English/jre/jre-6u22-windows-i586.exe
> > >
> > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English/jre/jre-6u21-windows-i586.exe
> > >
> > > http://libreoffice-na.us/English/jre/jre-6u20-windows-i586.exe
> > >
> > > My Ubuntu 10.04 system uses OpenJDK, but their site is still down.  If it ever comes
> > > back up, I will see about downloading their version of the JRE and adding them to my
> > > LibreOffice-NA.US domain, just in case they go down again.
> > One more note...
> > I hope the Foundation has secured permission from Oracle to host "their" software 
> > because
> > if it is not secured then it can be considered a DMCA violation.
> Then why would they require everything but your blood type to download their old 
> software?  No other company I know does that and if they require my blood to have free 
> copies of their old free software for available for free, then take the blood of a guy 
> who is on a fixed income with a work related disability living in government housing, 
> who's wife has Alzheimer's.  Good press for them, would it?
>
> What is DMCA?  I am not up to all of the alphabet soup names.  Is this something like 
> the record industry threating 60 year old ladies with pay me $100,000 or I sue you for 
> $10,000,000 and 20 years in jail for downloading music that they did not but cannot 
> prove it?

DMCA - Digital Millenium Copyright Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

It has to do with Intellectual Property (IP) rights.  Basically, Oracle owns the software 
and the Foundation has to have permission to host their software on the Foundation's 
server.  If that permission is not secured then Oracle has the right to issue a DMCA 
Takedown Notice.

It doesn't matter if the software is free or not.  What matters is Oracle owns it and has 
the right to approve who can distribute it.  Failure to follow a DMCA Takedown Notice can 
lead to the shutdown of the Foundation's server(s) by the hosting company.

I STRONGLY suggest removing Oracle's software (or any other 3rd party software) until the 
Foundation secure's permission to host it/them.  I really would hate to see the 
Foundation's server shutdown over an DMCA IP violation.


-- 
Dave
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