Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writing programs for Base

To be honest, I have written a database program for a mainframe.  I 
really like the backend/frontend type.  You can choose what database you 
want to use that is best for your needs.  MySQL seems to be the most 
popular for the non-MS ones.  Also is you do any Browser/server/web 
based access to these databases, you should choose MySQL.

The real part about databases is the way you access the data in the 
system.  Entry forms and Reports are the main stay for database 
programmers.  So it would be better to use the well-established backend 
database systems and dedicate your office suite programming to access 
packages for those popular systems.

To be honest, would you want to use a database system that only one 
package can access, or one that you can use for your office package 
related documents and web-based access methods at the same time?  Use LO 
to do the entry and reports, and use HTML/browser based viewing for 
those will low computer skills.  It seems most offices now have HTML 
based access to databases or other customer information.  I think if you 
have network based database access, that is the way to go.  I would use 
LO to do the initial work for setting up the database and the initial 
data entry work, then use HTML/Browser based access for my users.  Some 
fields/records would require the admin/LO forms to do any edits to, as a 
security feature though.

SO it would make sense for LibreOffice to use the popular database 
formats, like MySQL, and concentrate on the access forms/reports for 
those bases.  That is what I did for my Mainframe programming work, let 
other define the database and I create the data entry and reports.

On 08/25/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Base is a front-end and yes you can easily choose which back-end you use.  There
> are a lot of powerful back-ends out there.  Base does have a default one but
> apparently it is better to choose something else.  It is not in great shape
> right now but hopefully more people will help those that recently started rather
> than everyone building up their own front-ends that they then have problems
> maintaining and supporting adequately.  Just my 2 cents/euros/pence.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mickelsen<msmickelsen@gmail.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thu, 25 August, 2011 19:21:58
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writing programs for Base
>
> I'm very surprised to learn that Base is not a database program.  I
> guess it is just some sort of front end to "real" database programs,
> is that right?
>
> I guess this means that I'll have to get a real database program that
> I can write programs for in order to accomplish this project. Any
> suggestions as to what would be inexpensive and easy to work with?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Mickelsen
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Andreas Säger [via Document
> Foundation Mail Archive]
> <ml-node+3283334-980602350-424438@n3.nabble.com>  wrote:
> > Since Base is not a database program, the first thing to know would be the
> > actual database to be used. An embedded HSQLDB is only one option, good
> > enough for simple demos and drafts but you don't really want to develop
> > anything serious for that.
> >
> > Every "common database" (MySQL, Postgre,... and HSQLDB too) provides access
> > to external text tables by means of database structures pulling their
> > content from plain text files.
> > You can create a view which selects the wanted records from the text table
> > in the right order of columns.
> > In Base you can drag or copy the view icon over the target table's icon and
> > hit "Create".
> > A set of example files dealing with csv, Base and Calc:
> > [Example] Loading CSV into preformatted spreadsheets
> > Files #1 and #2 resemble a text file linked to a (embedded) HSQLDB, editable
> > through an input form on a (embedded) Writer document.
> >
> > Using some "common database", any "common scripting language" can update the
> > database with very few lines of code. No 350MB office suite required for
> > that.
> >
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