Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

On 05/12/2011 05:10 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> On 13/05/11 8:57 AM, jslozier wrote:
> > Tom,
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:49 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: jslozier<jslozier@gmail.com>
> > To: users@libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:21 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: jslozier<jslozier@gmail.com>
> > To: users@libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?
> >
> > John, Tom
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
> > Productions wrote:
<snip>
> > > > The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon 
> > > > over 3
> > > > years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
> > > > on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
> > > > open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
> > > > they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money 
> > > > they
> > > > from them for something that is available at no charge.
> > > >
> > > > There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully 
> > > > supported
> > > > by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
> > > > installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
> > > > could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
> > > > users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
> > > > aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
> > > > cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
> > > > disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus 
> > > > disk.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi :)
> > > > It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences.  People often 
> > > > feel more
> > > > comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable 
> > > > about getting it
> > > >
> > > > for free.  Even downloading something can be a bit too technical 
> > > > for some
> > > > average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast 
> > > > majority.
> > > > What
> > > >
> > > > they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against 
> > > > breakages and
> > > > stupidity.  For many people no cost would be high enough to cover 
> > > > against those
> > > >
> > > > things.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on 
> > > > the hardware
> > > > (rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same 
> > > > as Gentoo's
> > > >
> > > > Portage.  I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > > Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
> > > Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
> > > straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
> > > used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi :)
> > > Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative.  Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones 
> > > like
> > > TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from 
> > > Gentoo.
> > > Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is 
> > > immediately useful to
> > > most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things.  Exactly 
> > > what Chrome
> > > was avoiding :)
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > There are several distos derived from a minimalist Ubuntu/Debian core
> > available, some a intended for netbooks. other older desktops, and
> > others for desktops. I guess Google is not as capable as someone at home
> > in their pajamas. In fact Ubuntu has an official version for netbooks
> > available now. My impression is Google is sinking to a low that MS does
> > not even sink to. Windows and MS Office are pricey but you do get free
> > updates, patches, etc. for the life of the product from Microsoft.
> > Google is charging $28/mon for 3 years, max of $1008.
> >
> > Depending on the carrier in the US you might get a netbook for a steep
> > discount if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract. I think retail for a
> > netbook is about $250 - $300.
> >
> > I
> I think this release is targeted at enterprises. They may be happy to 
> pay a lease for hardware and software that updates and even 
> repairs/reinstalls itself when a fault occurs. The enterprise 
> management tools that come with Chrome Enterprise may easily offset 
> the cost.
> steve
Looks like I started a hot topic here.....

I would not mind to have a netbook, except it is too small of a display 
size for my aging eyes, and its default installed RAM seems to never be 
enough for my needs.  I have seen some of the tablet systems advertise 
with 256 MB for installed ram.  50% of all my software types would slow 
down to snail's pace with less than 512 to 1,000 MB of ram.  My old 
laptop with 1.256 GB of ram is very slow for much of the intensive CPU 
work I tend to do that is not use an office suite to do.

Yes Ubuntu had a great version for a Netbook OS, but they decided that 
their full package should work the same way, so Unity was chosen over 
GNOME as the default desktop manager or it is a desktop shell?

As for the $28 per month for 3 years. . . .
Well take the $250 netbook, add some extras, and so on, you might get a 
good setup for less than $400 all total.  Now if you do not have the 
money up front, or you want some service contract, then maybe - 
stretching it here - you would be better off with Google's offering.  
Just like the people who offer you a full computer system for $40 a week 
and charge you $3500 in the end for something that costs under $800 to 
buy yourself.  If you do not have the up-front money, you may not have 
much of an option otherwise.  One of my neighbors is using a local 
rent-to-own service to get himself a computer he otherwise cannot 
afford.  Now he complains that it is a few years old and wants to 
rent-to-own a newer one.  Oh well, I would love to have his older one 
since only one of my machines is faster that that one.  I could use 
another fast one, but do not have $40 a week to pay for one right now.




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