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From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 21:57:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Tom,

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:49 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:





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From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 20:40:19
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

Hi

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 20:21 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:





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From: jslozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May, 2011 19:41:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LibO work with Google's Linux?

John, Tom

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 10:23 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:

On 05/12/2011 08:55 AM, John Shabanowitz wrote:
As I understand Chrome OS, it is totally web based. There are no 
installable
programs. It works totally off of Google products. I think you would need 

a
browser based version of LibO from an app server. However, Google docs 
does
save to Open Document Formats by default.

Since they call it "Linux", I assume you would be able to install your 
own applications and packages on that laptop or desktop.

There seems to be a movement to make Google's Linux Chromebook a type of 
OS that can be used instead of Windows or "normal" Linux distros, or at 
least that is what I think they are planning.

So if Google is planning to have a "Windows Killer" OS in a desktop or 
laptop computer, you must be able to add your own package for things 
that Google has not bought yet:  GIMP, Firefox, Thunderbird, 
LibreOffice, Inkscape, K3b, VLC, Jablum, Filezilla, XSane, DeVeDe, 
printers, plus all the other packages and devices  I use almost daily.

Google must be able to have you install these types of packages and 
devices, or it will not be able to function as a complete laptop or 
desktop computer.

*John Shabanowitz
http://libodocs.wordpress.com
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On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:39 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productions<
webmaster@krackedpress.com>  wrote:

The following article's title got me thinking.  Does LibreOffice work 
on
Google's Linux OS?  It is starting to be installed in some computers at 

the
vendor, so it may come up.  It would be nice to be able to tell people, 

in
the near future, that it works on that OS as well.



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Five Reasons why Google's Linux Chromebook is a Windows killer

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: After years, decades, of talking about Linux
taking on Windows on the desktop, we finally have a serious contender 
with 


a
serious backer, Google, behind it. Can it do in Windows on the business
desktop?

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The problem the Google stupidity is they are charging you $28/mon over 3
years for a netbook that you can get for may be $250. They are playing
on the ignorance of most non Linux users. They mostly are unaware of
open source software or free(dom) software and their communities. So
they do not know, initially, that Google is basically taking money they
from them for something that is available at no charge. 

There are no cost Linux netbook OS's available that are fully supported
by the developer. Ubuntu has an official netbook version that has LO
installed and presumably if you wanted to use Google Apps/Docs you
could. Ubuntu netbook is available and maintained for no charge to the
users, like most Linux distro's. I only mention Ubuntu because I am
aware of it, Distrowatch.com probably lists several others. The only
cost is time for downloading (in the background), burning the ISO on
disk, and install time. The last two are may be 1 hour total plus disk.


Hi :)
It is allowed under the GPL and similar licences.  People often feel more 
comfortable paying for something and can be very uncomfortable about getting 
it 


for free.  Even downloading something can be a bit too technical for some 
average Windows users, the rest would be impossible for the vast majority.  
What 

they are paying for is brand-name, support, insurance against breakages and 
stupidity.  For many people no cost would be high enough to cover against 
those 


things.  


According to Wikipedia there is a muti-media player installed on the hardware 

(rather than through the Cloud) and the package manager is the same as 
Gentoo's 


Portage.  I have a feeling that Portage is quite tricky (?) lol.
Regards from
Tom :)


Is Google OS a derivative of Gentoo? I would used Debian/Ubuntu or Red
Hat/Fedora and possibly Mandriva/Mageia for the base. They all have
straightforward package management. Also, most Windows users are not
used to the Linux repository system with vetted software for your OS.


Hi :)
Yes, it's a Gentoo derivative.  Like Slackware, Arch and newer ones like 
TInyCore it is quite 'easy' to build a very minimalist distro from Gentoo.  
Ubuntu, Mageia/Mandriva and probably anything else that is immediately useful 
to 

most users is quite "bloated" with useful apps and things.  Exactly what Chrome 

was avoiding :)
Regards from
Tom :)


There are several distos derived from a minimalist Ubuntu/Debian core
available, some a intended for netbooks. other older desktops, and
others for desktops. I guess Google is not as capable as someone at home
in their pajamas. In fact Ubuntu has an official version for netbooks
available now. My impression is Google is sinking to a low that MS does
not even sink to. Windows and MS Office are pricey but you do get free
updates, patches, etc. for the life of the product from Microsoft.
Google is charging $28/mon for 3 years, max of $1008.

Depending on the carrier in the US you might get a netbook for a steep
discount if you sign a 1 or 2 year contract. I think retail for a
netbook is about $250 - $300.

I 


Hi :)
Yes, all true.  Until people "do the Math"(s) they probably think it sounds like 
they are getting a laptop for $28 with a replacement free if anything goes 
slightly wrong with it.  As you point out the deal surely must include wireless 
broadband.  One would hope the connection is very fast and rock solid.
Regards from
Tom :)

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