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Hi all,

As a non expert but interested party I find this a very important
conversation. I think compatibility wherever possible with Microsoft Office
is critical for the long term success of LibreOffice.

If I understand this discussion correctly it is about document
transferability between Microsoft and non Microsoft platforms.

I think it would be the perfect opportunity to bundle the metric compatible
Microsoft 'C' fonts like Carlito with LibreOffice by default for all those
people on non Microsoft platforms and have some logic in LibreOffice to map
these to the metric compatible fonts.

I appreciate the size concern as bloat is a very real issue. I suppose you
need to prioritise what is important for the long term growth of the

Can I just ask those people with more knowledge what type of additional
size are we talking about to include these fonts and possible mappings? If
under 5 Megabytes would that be acceptable? Is there less frequently used
fonts that could be removed to facilitate this and keep the download size
roughly the same?

As someone who has to use multiple operating systems for work and different
office software I find reproducibility critical to my workflow. This is why
I believe that Microsoft Office compatibility in general should be a
primary goal to strive for as many people feel that this is a detrimental
issue for LibreOffice currently, however that is a different discussion for
now. Thank you for your feedback.



On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, 14:43 Uwe Altmann, <> wrote:

HI Raffaele

Am 10.02.21 um 18:33 schrieb Raffaele Mancuso:
(1) I don't agree that the increase in file size by embedding fonts
be a problem. Nowadays kids download 30 GB videogames over the internet.

Besides the arguments brought up there is one further:
The main problem afaik is the mirror network which we use to distribute
binaries. Those who operate it freely are rather constraining in regard of
disk space and especially bandwith. And LO by design is rather lavish on
this, so we are rather reserved in reclaiming even more capacities. For
instance this is why the Mac version needs a separate download of your
preferred language (if not English).

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Uwe Altmann

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