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Hi Telesto,

Thanks for the large reply, of which, from what I gather is that you are
saying that the definition of "Community" can be viewed from many
perspectives. My comment to this is, this is where the TDF/LibreOffice
needs to message in a clearer way on the website as to its definition of
"community", just to make it crystal clear. We all come from different
cultures, I am Canadian, and in particular French-Canadian, so, my
interpretation of "community" will be nuanced by my cultural background.
However, if a clear definition on the TDF and LibreOffice offers a clear
message of the definition of "community" then it can be treated as our

As for giving credit to the coding enterprises that makes in large part
what LibreOffice is, sure, I am on side with this. However, let's not
forget that others have committed resources to the project. One example
of such is the group of national domain holders who provide LibreOffice
brand legal cover in various countries. For example,
is owned and supported by a Canadian individual who supports this cover
(as well as other .ca domains), as well as potential liability. This
hidden group is never spoken of, and, never credited for giving help to
the project. There are many non-TDF-members on the docs team who also
support through great effort and also some who base their doc support
through their business who are also part of this large hidden group. And
this is just the tip of some of the hidden groups who are generally left
with no credit for their efforts.

So, essentially, we should credit all who contribute to the project.
But, sure, I completely agree, that the project should acknowledge in
particular the ecosystem-partners as a strategy of moving the project on
in the for-profit ecosystem, we should definitely consider this
acknowledgement. But, with the hopes that the ecosystem-partners also
realize the nature of the LibreOffice project's mission and vision is
the heartbeat of the organization.

As for your comments on timely re-evaluations, and the potential mess it
may/does create. This is just part of the process. Membership talk is
healthy, whether negative or positive. Learning how to work in a project
with some give-and-take is healthy. We should all embrace any kind of
conversation. We all come from different backgrounds, culture and knowledge.



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