Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Cancelling the confcall?

Tom,

I'd like to quickly jump in here, perhap  opening a new thread if
necessary. I am not part of the Membership Committee, and therefore my
suggestion should not be taken as anything authoritative. If you do what
you have written below (helping people on users mailing lists and forums)
then it means that your contribution is documented, and therefore you're
eligible for membership. I thought I'd point it out of fairness and out of
information as I feel many people do not know or are not aware of their
eligibility.

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2012/5/2 Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>

> Hi :)
> While editing the previous email an error crept in.  Near the end i said
> "we hard workers" but i only answer tons of questions and help hundreds of
> people gain confidence in solving their problems and obviously that doesn't
> count as work.  Anyway i don't feel i belong in any group that needs to
> break through the barriers (such as the glass ceiling) although i guess
> some people would say otherwise.  I meant to say "our" or "your" hard
> workers.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/5/12, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> From: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Cancelling the confcall?
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 2 May, 2012, 11:09
>
> Hi :)
> How a person looks can raise barriers.
>
> Everyone is biased against one group or another.  People that claim they
> are not are either unaware or trying fool themselves or trying to fool
> other people.  In some countries there are laws to prevent certain groups
> being treated unfairly.  However those countries still find an imbalance
> sometimes given names such as "the glass ceiling".  Communicating by email
> ostensibly reduces some of those barriers as we cannot hear each others
> accents nor see skin colour and are not distracted by how physically
> attractive (or not) others might be.  Subconciously we guess and judge
> based on chosen usernames, topics and ways of writing.  One big problem is
> that using computers at all takes a high level of education and in many
> countries (including the one i live in) that creates a
>  hidden bias due to the nature of our education systems.
>
> We should take notice that although there were a few founders that
> were/are female none of those have stood for election.  All BoD members are
> white, well educated and male.  Luckily there seems to be some diversity in
> ethnicity or at least in the countries people come from.
>
> While we strive (at least i think we do) for equality and give people
> equal opportunity to get involved it doesn't look like we care about
> diversity at all.  Some of the disparity could be resolved if we existing
> ling-term hard-workers felt confident about standing for positions of
> authority.
>
> I worry that by moving to video we would increase the accidental disparity
> but we obviously need to do something different and maybe communicating by
> video might make us more aware of the lack of diversity.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/5/12, Cor
>  Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl> wrote:
>
> From: Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl>
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Cancelling the confcall?
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 2 May, 2012, 9:34
>
> Florian Effenberger wrote (02-05-12 10:25)
>
> > > And many people only know each other a little.
> > > - So a clear agenda helps: topics + description + what is expected in
> > > the call (collection or discussing or making a choice).
> >
> > Yes, indeed, that's something that was simply missing for April's call,
> > due to the lack of time, and I am sure this contributed to the lack of
> > interest.
>
> Yep - preparation ...
>
> > > - And then that the call is done so that it is easy to have a good
> > > discussion and so more. But
>  often this already is difficult when people
> > > meet, so without seeing each other ...
> >
> > So, you are proposing video meetings, or adding pictures to the wiki so
> > we "see" each other?
>
> Communication is not only the voice, also where, how a person looks etc
> etc.
> Video would help, but raise the technical barrier incredibly.
> So a clear agenda, possibly input from participants before the meeting and
> guiding the meeting will help. This is a specific task, for which someone
> needs to bring in time and experience.
>
>
> --  - Cor
>  - http://nl.libreoffice.org
>
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