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Hi :)

I think you are right to use the CMYK (79,0,100,0) which is used on the 
webpages.  I think the table was written earlier in the decision-making process 
and now needs updating.

Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Thomas Krumbein <thomas.krumbein@documentfoundation.org>
To: marketing@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 27 January, 2011 7:29:18
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] branding colors - missmatch

Hey Bernhard,

not shure, if you really understood the problem:

It is not the color RGB (24,136,3) - this is the same value in Adobe CS
by opening Logo-File (png, jpg or svg).

But again, RGB is not for printing! Real world uses CMYK Colors.
So, when I change to the RGB Color to CMYK, value is: 79,0,100,0 in
Adobe CS.
Your branding-color table calls CMYK (85,0,98,36), which is real darker
then the RGB color!

You understand the missmatch? I can use your CMYK (85,0,98,36) or I can
use your RGB, which is CMYK (79,0,100,0). Both are different!

My personal opinion: I will use CMYK (79,0,100,0), which appears nearer
to the green in Web :-)

Best regards
Thomas

Am 27.01.2011 02:09, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi Thomas, all,

CC'ing the design list as I think this topic should be discussed there.

Thomas Krumbein schrieb:
Hey folks,

it´s me again - I still do not have an real answer regarding colors.

Sorry - but as I don't possess Adobe CS4, I can't reproduce your problem.

We now have to do the printing for CeBIT 2011 - and I like to get an
clear answer from all those people, who have made the color "branding
guidelines".

Christoph Noack is the one who provided these colors - based on some 
thoughts from the design team.

Unles I do not get an clear answer here, I will decide the colors for
myself - and than I will use CMYK 79, 0, 100, 0.

I don't understand what's the problem with the values written on the 
wiki site. As they will be printed on "real" material, they will look 
different from their representation on the web.



Again the link for comparing colors:

www.ooodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/farbunterschied.pdf

This file shows really dark green tones - and imported in Inkscape it 
reads #007c37 for the darker and #1cb24b for the lighter green.

None of them is #18a303 what it should be.

I could send you a screenshot (or the SVG file), but I assume that this 
result is based on several conversions between applications, file 
formats and color models, so it would probably not help.

As we can't avoid conversion problems with different applications, we 
should stay with the color codes as far as possible. Even with the same 
color codes they will look different when presented on different 
monitors or printed by different printers.

(I remember a strange color problem with Adobe conversion to CMYK back 
in 2006  on the OOo-Art list, where only Illustrator showed different 
colors or converted to other values while all the other applications 
showed the same color. Can't search the archive at the moment, but it 
was related to the Art Style guide we created then - and perhaps a 
comment made it in the guide too)

So please use
HEX 18a303
RGB (24,136,3)
CMYK (85,0,98,36)

some more comments below...

Best regarsds
Thomas




Am 16.01.2011 13:46, schrieb Thomas Krumbein:
Hey,

I try to create some marketing-material for LibO, unfortunatly I have
some mismatch in colors:

Following the branding guidlines the main color for "Libre" is "Green
1", Hex 18A303, RGB 24 163 3, CMYK 85 0 98 36
When I use the cmyk values (for printing), color seems to be really
"darker" then the LibO Color (as seen in Web).

I am using Adobe CS4 - Illustrator.
When I try to open the svg-logo-file, I got an error.

I'll send you a file converted to "plain SVG" offlist. Perhaps you can 
open this one.

When I open the png file, I can pick up the color of the "Libre" word:
Hex 25A22D, RGB 37 162 45, CMYK 79,0,100,0

I don't know enough about color definition in PNG. But the logo has been 
exported from Inkscape with the right color, so it might be possible to 
find out, how the color values are stored.

Did you have a look at the file with a different application than 
Illustrator? Does the color differ?

Well, this values are really different!

Yes indeed.

So, what to do?

Ii just tried to save a SVG file containing a green rectangle and open 
it in an editor. It reads:

style="color:#000000;fill:#18a303;fill-opacity:1 ...

The exported PNG file doesn't show any readable values because it is 
compressed, I suggest.

But as well in Inkscape as in GIMP the color stays #18a303. so I don't 
know if there is a problem with the .png file you got or with the color 
rendering at yours or somewhere in-between.

Perhaps the SVG file can be opened...

Best regards

Bernhard



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