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On 2 December 2010 16:55, Florian Effenberger <

Hi Ian,

sorry for stepping in that late... was more than terribly busy the last
days. :-(

Ian wrote on 2010-10-17 15.44:

I'm calling for anyone interested in a means of generating a sustainable
and substantial revenue for the new Foundation to attend a meeting at
the end of January probably in Germany. This will be a preparatory
meeting for submitting a Transfer of Innovation application to the EU
for 300,000 Euro to support training and business development of
LibreOffice certification. National Agencies in the EU will pay expenses
up to 1000 Euros for attending the meeting. (Google for national agency
Leonardo Da Vinci Transfer of Innovation in your country language)
Ideally we would have a partner from each EU member state. We already
have partners in Romania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Germany, Spain but
others are welcome from these and other countries. Grants have to be
applied for 8 weeks before any meeting which is why I'm proposing late

What's the current status of this at the moment? I know there have been a
lot of discussions going on, also on the relation to TDF - can you bring us
up to date?

Current situation is that Manfred Reiter and myself have organised a
preparatory meeting in Berlin 28th January. We have confirmed delegates
attending from the UK, DE, Ro, BG, CZ, ES also possibly NL and IT too.
 Anyone else wanting to attend should e-mail Manfred (or me and I will
forward it) as we have to tell the venue how many people will be there. If
there is interest we can try to arrange a conference or at least an IRC
session for part of the time.

The objective is to decide what strategy to adopt and how to fund its
development by bidding for EU grant money, who will lead the bids and with
which partners.

At the moment we have Learning Objectives and assessment criteria organised
in units that are referenced to the European Qualifications Framework in
Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Drawing Software, Presentation and Database.
I'm currently writing the unit guidance.
SS <> and Drawing is done with
guidance on how to interpret the assessment criteria; there is on-line
recording and certification
system<>linked toDrupal for
evidence<>gathering. (It's
all built on Free software, naturally :-) )

Without wanting to pre-empt the decisions of the meeting, all we really need
is to agree to issue a certificate from TDF endorsing that the fact that the
student used OOo/LO as the context for the the units. We charge maybe 1 Euro
for each of those certificates and that money goes to TDF. We use the EU
money to train assessors and set them up as certification centres for LO/OOo
and to build marketing links eg to national governments that are interested
in OOo/LO certification. We can also develop versions of the guidance using
the models I have already developed that are specific to OOo/LO and we can
do screen casts like the ones linked here demonstrating how to use the
various features of the software and produce those in as many languages as

At this stage, these are ideas, and it is really up to the meeting to
decide. From our point of view we simply have to be sure we can cover costs
because we have to pay our developers, sales people etc. I have also drafted
a unit on digital
inclusion<>that is
designed to relate open source and open systems more generally to
equality of opportunity and inclusion. This could be an optional extra unit
for LO/OO certification too.

I hope this answers the question, but if not please feel free to ask


Florian Effenberger <>
Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation
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