On Tuesday 02 Nov 2010 22:52:31 Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:29:38 +0100,
Monfort Florian <firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit :
Le mardi 02 novembre 2010 à 09:27 +0000, Ian a écrit :
I'm going to suscribe to the French mailing list ( as I am French
lol ) and I think there are some people who could be interested
of being representative for France.
Should I talk about it ? Or is this something we should wait TDF
to be a legal entity ?
Je ne pense pas que vous avez besoin de retard. Il n'y a pas
beaucoup de temps si les délégués veulent obtenir du financement
pour la réunion par leur Agence nationale de l'UE.S'il vous plaît
diffuser aussi largement que possible. Cela va m'aider si ces
e-mail intéressés moi si je sais que la mesure de l'intérêt.
I think it's perhaps safe to remind everyone that this "certification"
is not exactly a Document Foundation certification. First, we're in the
process of establishing the foundation; second, we need to be working
on a certification programme and I am not the only here, obviously, who
thinks it's an essential matter :-) but we need to be working on it and
give the time to do that. While I'm sure Ian has a lot of input on
this, I would like to remind everyone here that the meeting Ian
organizes is not done on behalf of the Document Foundation; as
productive as it might be. I would have loved to join myself, but am
running out of time.
I think you have missed the point, define "on behalf of"
Read back over the mails. It seems "on behalf of" to me, not wholly of course,
because it takes a commercial organisation such as TLM to get this established
and that has be self sustaining. SUN wasn't selling StarOffice or Java or
Solaris "on behalf of" OOo, yet that funded OOo. Novell doesn't sell SLE "on
behalf of" OOo yet that funds contribution to LibO.
OOo bureaucracy rejected the opportunity of being involved in the INGOTs
programme quite a few years back. The foundation needs funding, INGOTs has
the infrastructure in place to generate such funding. If we were to sit
around waiting for an In House Certification Certification the funding that
would be generated by that (if any after costs were covered) wouldn't arrive
till the next decade given the glacial pace of OOo Certs development and the
certification would probably be out of date and not subject to rigorous
moderation in any case The foundation does not and will not have the
resources to apply rigorous Quality control to such a certification in any
INGOTs assessment criteria are OfQual accredited, frankly, I doubt that LibreO
will ever have the clout to achieve anything like that. The certification and
assessment programme, because of that accreditation, undergoes continuous
moderation and Quality Assurance by Education Professionals to ensure that it
maintains the highest Pedagogical standards.
Developers are hard to come by, there aren't the numbers, however the
community can come up with a sizable number of people who have the capability
of becoming INGOTs Assessors/ Assessor Trainers in their local areas. The
project does not need to be working on it's "own" certification (not straight
away anyway) when a robust, proven, rigorously moderated Assessment and
Certification programme is being handed to the project on a platter.
Ian and his team have done all the work and have the systems in place. LibreO
has the geographical spread and a growing community and hence the ability to
generate funding for TDF. What better way to fund the foundation than through
the efforts of the Community running grass roots certification programmes on
behalf of their local community, on behalf of themselves and INGOTs and "on
behalf of" the Foundation.
ps: Yes I am biased so sue me. :)
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